FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MEXICO 2025.....Race..............▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

watch the highlights and re-examine your list! Most of it is just your opinion. Mark your own homework but you must try harder

 

I don't need to watch anything. Lets hear YOUR rebuttal. You say I'm wrong, then prove me wrong. I gave you a detailed list of facts, you want to say it's false then prove it. I've done more than enough to prove you are wrong, so go ahead and disprove the facts I've presented.

 

Unfortunately you do need to watch it, most of your facts are opinions and your POV and are entitled to those, you prove zilch.
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It is not against the rules to simply go off track - fact Untrue no driver should leave the track unless justifiable reason. read my post 329
Tony
PS dont troll, you appear to be better than that.

 

I am not surprised in the least that you would refuse to even attempt to try to prove me wrong. I welcome anyone to give it a try though.

Max was justified to leave the track on both occasions. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it false.
Leaving the track does not mean an automatic penalty. Drivers are even given 3 free unjustified track limit violations before a penalty is enforced.
If you believe either of the above then by default you would have to believe Lewis Hamilton deserved an additional 10 second penalty, maybe even 20 seconds. He left the track without justification, he didn't use the escape road that he was supposed to, AND he held the advantage gained. Is that 10, 20, 30 seconds worth of penalties or even more?

You could have saved face the whole time by just saying that you believe the rules in F1 suck, the Mexico track layout doesn't punish enough for cutting across the grass, etc etc. Its your opinion and anyone can agree with you, perhaps including myself on certain points. Instead you chose to die on a hill that is clear to anyone and everyone that you choose to deny facts, you refuse to prove your claims or disprove facts given to you, you have a clear negative bias towards Max, you will attack ones facts as opinions, you suggest opinions that don't support yours are wrong and yet you will use opinions that support your beliefs and claim them to be facts. Believe what you want, it won't change the results.

I'm out.

 

Tony babee, Gag you with a spoon, you're becoming an insufferable bore, yes you hate Max haha who lives in your head charging massive rent you don't have the cashflow to pay. It's always Max's fault, why we're beginning to think the old Bwit only fetish has taken you over like Brundle, sky spew and other notables....hopefully you'll be over it after Halloween.

 

I really don't get the controversy. I just re-watched the start. As soon as Max popped on Charles to the outside, Charles moved over and forced Max onto the curb and even over it. At that point, his tires were basically not going to be able to stop; not just because of dust; it looks like he was ridding the curb with the skid plate, so the tires were partially unloaded. There was no way to get back on the asphalt and make the corner.

When he came out ahead of Lewis, he gave the position back.

Brundle wants him to chuck it in there and spin it...LOL; okydoky.

 

Good logic.

Rob - shut down the F1 forum.

LOL.

 

It's still a matter of Brundle's opinion what he would have done IF the rules supported it. But seeing as Max gave up any advantage, he can't be penalized. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

That's essentially it and I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement that the current overtaking rules in F1 are terrible. I've said it the moment they were announced and plenty agreed. It's not Max's fault he uses the dumb rules to his advantage.

 

Not bad for cars, it´s a an improvement, but still too much gravel for bikes. And they still could use the tarmac strip before the apex of the next corner.

 

A bit more asphalt for Bikes is not a problem IMO.

 

Based on his experience as a F1 driver I think that trumps your knowledge by a long way. How many grand prix's have you entered? Zero.

 

Trouble is you just quote an opinion, i dont need to save face at all and not going to get embroiled in a repetitive tirade of opinions. I have stated my opinion, your welcome to your own but dont bully your point of view on me.Thats my opinion and nothing you have said so far will change it. I dont see everyone agreeing with your POV either, just a selected band of max warriors. I dont like the guy, never have, even before he became WDC. Is he a worthy champion - yes. I didnt like the dirty tricks Schumacher got up to either.

 

I do not agree with that. In my book, nobody is justified to deliberately go off-limits.
There should be an instant consequence, like lost of time going through chicanes, or getting stranded in the gravel; no way you should rejoin the race like if nothing happened.
That's like moving the goal post in soccer, which wouldn't be acceptable, I am sure.
If drivers are allowed 3 track limit violations, that law is an ass !
The FIA and F1 are losing credibility by not strictly enforcing the rules, when they have all the means available: why, for instance don't they black-flag drivers who keep offending ?

 

We would all find it difficult to argue face to face with the guy. He has the "drivers" knowledge we dont!

 

The funny this is, as do you Tony!

 

Didn't catch the race. Bought a new Nissan Z instead to daily. Lovely car.

I watched the highlights and while I like Verstappen the guy and admire his talent, I am just not a fan of that style of racing at all. My take is if he wanted to be optimistic, then that's fine if it's a mistake. I disliked the unclean nature of his battles with Hamilton. I prefer gutsy cleanliness to overly aggressive bullying.

Sadly, I get the sense that the powers that be have no interest in tidying up the sport because it brings ratings.

 

My lava pit idea is still on the table, William.

 

Yes, but i say i respect your opinion you dont. Suggest you read your posts again!

 

Good points, but I think the issue is that Max was never going to clear that regardless going in four wide.

 

True, although three wide isn't as bad as four. Still far from great racing though.