FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MEXICO 2025.....Race..............▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

Likewise, long may it continue but some on here dont.

 

I don't like speed bumps as they can launch cars into the air dramatically but agree with the other options. There were a few crashes in junior formulas ~5-7 years ago IIRC related to cars being launched off of "sausage curbs" IIRC.

 

I'm referring to ktu's examples with street cars.

He is accelerating away from Charles, but in absolute terms he is still decelerating. As I said, the original post is poorly worded. When you are in the car, it feels like acceleration because you go from some high g-force deceleration to suddenly losing it as the car unloads.

You mean Leclerc was dangerous for pushing him onto the curb? I don't think so honestly, it's part of racing and the runoffs in F1 are massive.

That's an expression often used when you can't steer or slow down because the suspension is unloaded, you have a tire locked, and you are losing downforce from the floor.

LOL - I haven't PMed anyone on this. It really isn't that serious. I like Brundle as a commentator overall and never said he was an idiot. Fans and other athletes often disagree with sports commentators; they don't blindly accept their interpretation simply because they used to be a driver/athlete. Same goes for any number of sports. As pointed out, the drivers who are stewards clearly disagree with Brundle else they would have penalized Max.

 

Yes bumps are or can be difficult small ones can slow a driver after he is on the escape road so he does not push to gain entry too fast or dangerously. Cones are better to force turns to do the same. They can alter turn 1 at Mexico easily. We shall see if they do for next year. Avoid all this excess litigation lol

 

We will have to disagree on this one. In no way I see Max accelerating from Leclerc and Sir Lewis Hamilton. I see those two decelarating from Max. All cars involved are slowing down at this point. No one is accelerating. Again, it does'nt matter about him being on the curb, simply coming off the gas, he will decelerate. If you are saying your first post was poorly worded I understand, I digress.

 

Correct! He did nothing wrong and its documented.

FIA defends Lawson in wake of Mexican federation's statement
The FIA has exonerated Liam Lawson of any wrongdoing in his near-miss with marshals during F1's Mexican GP after the Mexican motorsport authority appeared to question his driving

 

Lawson may not have done anything wrong but he didn't do anything right either. He literally did nothing to avoid the people on the track. He didn't turn left, he didn't hit the brakes, he just drove his line and lucky for him the people on the track weren't in his path. We can blame the race director for letting that situation happen but it is shocking Lawson took zero evasive action to not hit people he was driving towards.

 

I have already commented on the "rules" which are completely barmy, IMO.
F1 is losing authority by tolerating so many track offenses.

I also contest that Max was pushed. Drivers put themselves in impossible situation, and then claimed they were "pushed". I didn't buy it. Placing yourself as the 4th car in the outside of a corner is just asking for trouble.

All this is my perception, of course. I understand there are different opinions

 

Nonsense. He brakes very hard. If he doesn't the second Marshall gets hit.





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The FIA has his telemetry. End of. No one at all with any remote concrete knowledge of this said he was dangerous or was remotely dangerous. The Mexican so called 'authority' did a nice job of covering their backside and inflamed this needlessly. Fact.

FIA defense of Lawson was to the point and correct. The track design and now the 'management' need serious help in Mexico. Sloppy and less than precise or even truthful.

 

Let me rephrase again in proper physics terms and put it to rest.

His rate of deceleration in the braking zone is equal to theirs as he reaches the curb and begins braking You can see this in the onboard Bas posted which contains a brake graphic - although it is binary. They are all roughly side by side.

As he progresses and is forced further on the curb, the floor strikes the curb high centering the car, and then he locks the FL, his rate of deceleration decreases relative to Charles and Ham.

When you are in the car and this happens, it feels like you are "accelerating", but as you rightly point out, you are still slowing, just at a lesser rate than desired. If they had longitudinal g's telemetry displayed, you would also see it there. You might see it go from 4g's of decel to say only 1g - as an example. This is why he gaps Charles and Ham in the second half of the braking zone. Also why he tries, but cannot get the car to turn off the curb.