296 VS | Page 266 | FerrariChat

296 VS

Discussion in '296' started by ajr550, Jun 5, 2022.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. St.R

    St.R Formula Junior

    Apr 10, 2023
    448
    Full Name:
    P.
    Very nice exhaust sound at the Video from
    Shmee. 296 Speciale sounds very good, and he will get an 296 Speciale Aperta.
     
    ryalex and Caeruleus11 like this.
  2. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

    Nov 26, 2013
    1,691
    #6627 Cocoloco, Nov 9, 2025 at 8:27 AM
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2025 at 8:33 AM
    Ferrari's lil party trick / special sauce track focus - separates itself from 296
    VS is 2 sec faster than 296 1 second faster than LaF and almost 2 sec slower than XX.
    Assume the 296M will run close to XX in a like 849 design
     
    ryalex and Caeruleus11 like this.
  3. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 11, 2013
    11,803
    I really enjoyed Shmee’s video
     
    of2worlds, KZEVO and Lagunae92 like this.
  4. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Aug 6, 2003
    26,306
    Las Vegas, NV
    Full Name:
    Ryan Alexander
    I'm nervous when looking at 849 and Amalfi what that design language will mean over the 296 chassis... more slab-sided and wedge nosed?
     
    KZEVO and NGooding like this.
  5. NGooding

    NGooding Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 5, 2021
    1,492
    Connecticut, USA
    Full Name:
    Nate
    With black trim?
     
  6. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Aug 6, 2003
    26,306
    Las Vegas, NV
    Full Name:
    Ryan Alexander
    mayer and NGooding like this.
  7. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

    Nov 26, 2013
    1,691
    #6632 Cocoloco, Nov 9, 2025 at 1:20 PM
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2025 at 1:29 PM
    Guaranteed, let's hope those parts can be painted / CF and become iconic.
    Remember people complaining about Plexi on Daytona - now the most sought after.
    Wait til we see next 918 GT2RS Porsche - F80 set the stage add NACA new aero tail like VS - personally love the departure from every rear engine exotic looking similar.
    The slant nose look is back - might as well embrace it.
     
    ryalex likes this.
  8. St.R

    St.R Formula Junior

    Apr 10, 2023
    448
    Full Name:
    P.
    No, simply because the cars look too overloaded. Ferrari has always been known for its special design, not the most exciting, and as we can see, these cars do not age well. A LaFerrari could be unveiled tomorrow and still cause a stir. An F80 or an 849 Testarossa is simply not timeless, whereas a LaFerrari is timeless.
     
    ryalex and x z8 like this.
  9. St.R

    St.R Formula Junior

    Apr 10, 2023
    448
    Full Name:
    P.
    Ultimately, people now simply buy numerous Ferrari models because they desire something like the 812 Competizione or SF90 XX. Very few people buy a car purely for driving.
     
    x z8 likes this.
  10. NGooding

    NGooding Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 5, 2021
    1,492
    Connecticut, USA
    Full Name:
    Nate
    Perhaps, though half a century later, it's still divisive. I'm not a huge fan of the Daytona, but it looks infinitely better to me without the plexi nose.
     
    ryalex likes this.
  11. NevB

    NevB Rookie

    Dec 18, 2004
    12
    Australia
    I'm on the Ferrari Club Australia Rally #51 now, 7 days of driving; more than 80 cars, plus a track day at the Phillip Island GP circuit
     
    ScrappyB, ryalex, of2worlds and 3 others like this.
  12. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

    Nov 26, 2013
    1,691
    #6637 Cocoloco, Nov 9, 2025 at 3:47 PM
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2025 at 3:58 PM
    Ok. They should be driving their 2-5m Ferrari's more - you are like the 16 year old rolling up and saying rev it let's race in a mustang.
    By the way I love those kids but not many others do. Why do you care what other people do - good for them that they are able to. You ave something against engineers factories and dealerships and people supporting them? Anyway back to the VS - I think it's proven its desirability.
     
    ryalex likes this.
  13. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

    Nov 26, 2013
    1,691
    Define exotic - curious
    Scaglietti plexi vs metal.
    Everyone has their own view or opinion, reality differs greatly.
     
  14. of2worlds

    of2worlds F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 6, 2004
    18,962
    ON
    Full Name:
    CH
    So since you ask the Daytona or to use it's name 365 GTB/4 was a huge disappointment. The buyers had seen the exotic 12 cylinder Lamborghini Miura in 1965 and it was lust at first sight. Ferrari buyers wanted their own exotic. Instead Ferrari took 3 painful years to introduce what initially amounted to a warmed over V12 model. Then a late decision introduced a different front design. However the worst sin; that V12 was not mounted behind the driver like the Lamborghini. Mr Ferrari in his wisdom felt his rear engine 12 cylinder models should be the exclusive domain of race drivers. As an alternative of sorts Ferrari offered a 206 GT with 6 cylinders behind the driver. Just like the Lamborghini the motor was transverse mounted. Fast forward some 55 years and Ferrari offers a V6 mounted behind the driver in the 296 Speciale.
    The plexi version Daytona is more faithful to the original coupe concept. The pop-up headlights were considered the least offensive technical solution to government regulations for the USA market. Initially in 1971 Ferrari tried to mimic the plexi nose design with silver paint. The silver paint on the nose was quietly dropped for 1972 and the nose was simply painted to match the rest of the body. A simple elegant solution had been found; as long as you didn't turn those headlights on.
    The original 365 GTB/4 idea was the 275 GTB front treatment. However the plexi nose version was an important change deemed necessary.

    Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    LVP488, mayer and NGooding like this.
  15. St.R

    St.R Formula Junior

    Apr 10, 2023
    448
    Full Name:
    P.

    No, but it's a fact.
    People now want to make money from everything. Cars are taking a back seat, but that's also due to the lack of sound. BTW, 296 Speciale is a great car.
     
    ryalex likes this.
  16. NGooding

    NGooding Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 5, 2021
    1,492
    Connecticut, USA
    Full Name:
    Nate
    I'm not sure why you're asking me to define exotic, it's a word I rarely use.

    But anyway, I don't think it's at all surprising that there's a healthy market for Daytonas. There's what, 1,200 of them? I'm sure it's a joy to drive, it sounds terrific, and there are lots of people who love the design.

    Likewise, it's not surprising that there's a premium for the plexinose. It's rarer. And it's the feature most strongly associated with the design. For the self-selected group of buyers drawn to the Daytona, presumably that's a good thing.

    This doesn't disprove (or prove) its divisiveness. Who knows? Perhaps the Daytona would be worth double had they chosen a different design direction a half century ago. Or, maybe it would be worth half. We can only speculate.

    What I do know is that to me, the 60s and the last three decades were golden ages of Ferrari designs. The 50s, 70s and 80s also had some designs that I love, but the batting average was lower. I'm sure there are others who feel the opposite. Though certainly, my take is not unusual.

    We'll see where things go from here, but the new design language seems to mark an inflection point. Whether, in time, you believe it ushered in a new golden era will be a matter of personal opinion. And debate for the next generation of FChatters. :)
     
    mayer, Caeruleus11 and of2worlds like this.

Share This Page