Hi all people , first iam frenchy and my english is bad , but i try to talk with you . I fan of italian car , i buy 15 years ago a puzzle DINO206GT , and i dont finish it today , only finish put light seat and fuel , lol . but 2 month ago i buy a conutach 5000S the only on island REUNION ( neer madagascar , neer MAURITIUS ) ok ! The story my countach , first owners PRESIDENT MOBUTU of ZAIRE , after she cmoe back to french with CICLET specialist lambo in french , and one man here buy it , run MAXI 500 kms and forget the car in a garage . all is original , but all are old 26 years , i have many pb with motor , gasket head dead , i must put out all and restore all , no problem i like that , but big difficult , i don't have a manualwork , may be one people can help me about that ? This night i try put some photos thanks christian
Hi Christian welcome to Fchat. I would be great to see this Countach reborn, can you post pictures? You live a very beautiful part of the world, but I'm sure you already realise that Cheers Simon
Welcome and nice find. You are not taking the easy way. Parts are very very expensive depending what you have to do. Many here can help. One guy in Dubai is completly resotring his 500S himself, He is mostly on another forum. (lam.. pow..). Cant list it on this site. He has a big thread. Start by Getting a part manual. There are plenty of copies around for grab. Raymond Stoffer from Switzerland has them all. Your car seem to have an interesting life. Post pictures and Vin. Looks like a car noone has seen before here unless they took a drive with Mobutu which is not necessarily something to look for. Il y a aussi quelques personnes qui parlent Francais sur ce site. Trouver des pieces a la Reunion ca ne va pas etre facile. si vous ne trouvez pas le site de la persone a Dubai je vous envoyerais un mail prive
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uffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff , after 3 try , the first photo was when i buyed it 2 month ago , the last owners forget this beautiful car in garage , dont running ago 10 years . i prepared for a start engine , and i find weater in oil , iam poor , more the bearing trouth clutch are broke , i am poor and i think , you must change all parts and after you can run zen . the origine water in oil is the water gasket pump was destroy . ok , thanks simon and countachqv , yes is not easy because here in my country iam alone and i must make all himself , no concession lambo and i have not sure garage man , sorry , and i like mecanic and restaure old french race car. actually motor/gear are out car , yesterday i win pull one head cylinder , i must build tool , because they have many rust on the gudgon , and this afternoon impossible pull another . i want see all parts i must change , http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145594&stc=1&d=1275490478http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145595&stc=1&d=1275490478 http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145596&stc=1&d=1275490478http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145597&stc=1&d=1275490478 http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145601&stc=1&d=1275490951 http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145602&stc=1&d=1275490951 http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145603&stc=1&d=1275490951 http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1145604&stc=1&d=1275490951 Question , i want repaint it same when she is factory , black and wheel gold what ref gold for wheel please ? if people have maual work and wiring , iam interressed thanks for your help Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
HI, UFFFFFFFFFFFFFF today i finish pull the second head cylinder ,it was very hard because they are many rust on all gudgon . the next bad news , i find little metal , same electrod plugs , little hammer on the piston , no seriuos , and water in oil destroy little aluminium under craft , no serious , i cross with extensible tool . http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146066&stc=1&d=1275578493 http://www.*********************/vbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14688&stc=1&d=1275577846 this week i clean all in head cylinder with valves , and next week i shall open the back , to see bushing and "vilbrequin" , iam afraid see bad thing . One people can give me reference gold color for counach's wheel ? the next week i send them to paint , thanks . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
It appears to me that in the 70s & 80s Dictators of Third World countries where most of the roads weren't even paved and majority of the population couldn't even afford any sort of car, just had to have Lamborghinis! Still, its really cool to see this one is being rescued.
hi , joe sackey , i dont understand all , but i think you write may be right . i like this car countach , after , how has owners , i cannot remake story . Actualy , my mind is win restaure this car , was forget 10 years , poor countach . Salegosse , ouf ca fait du bien de parler francais , as tu egalement une countach , peux tu me dire ou trouver des pieces moteur , sans qu'on te coupe la gorge . merci thanks
I can send you a copy of the L406 engine manual for the 4 liter engine. This manual can be used as a reference in rebuilding the 5 liter engine. The file is to large to place here so send me a private message with your email address and I will send it to you. Best of luck, Vic
HI , first thanks VIC and P R,,,, , for your help , and thanks for another with your encouragement . yesterday i promise you some photos , you can see one expansive tool and my "arbre a came" after polished with 1200 oil . that is ok , i can turn free no resist ,,,, good . I polished admission valve all afternoon for 6 cylinder , may be i make same for exaust. but this night i think , why or how they gudgon are rust ??????? i loock neer my head cylinder , hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm sorry for the owners lambo , iam same you , when i was a young boy , 30 years ago , i had countach poster in my bedroom same you i imagine . BUt , but you can see in the photo quality aluminium is not excellent . and my Worried is , may be water cross hole gidgon by water space , if you zoom on the photo n°26, you can see may be the problem .http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146739&stc=1&d=1275713494http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146740&stc=1&d=1275713494http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146741&stc=1&d=1275713494http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146742&stc=1&d=1275713494 monday i must find a solution to confirm this hole are perfect seal . If your are idea , tomorrow we make Peak screws with old french race car , i shall go with a JIDE , its a Rocket , 220 hp for 550kg http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146747&stc=1&d=1275713837 i take this photo in vulcan's reunion , wonderfull area tahnks all people good saturday and sunday Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
It looks like you have quite a project on your hands. What is your plan for the camshaft journal that you are using the expanding reamer on? Those journals become scored/galled from oil starvation and excessive chain tension. A proper repair involves precise line-boring and fitting bearing inserts. Please provide more photos and I'll try to advise. It is very difficult to decipher your broken English.
Hi 2NA, resorry for me english , but the program transalte is more broken . the origine problem to my cam;; was i find water in oil , why ? the gasket water pump destroy , but its ok , yesterday i make all right with expensive tool , and now the cam,, turn well and no more space , just 0,03mm . Have you see the hole in aluminium head countach ? may be its my motor was bad product ? ok , i search solution . thanks
If you had any significant amount of water in the oil the main and connecting rod bearings are probably ruined as well. Failed water pump seals are a frequent problem in old Lamborghinis The camshaft damage is not from water and reaming it without replacing the lost metal isn't a permanent fix. I have attached a picture of a proper repair but it can't be done with a hand reamer. Apparently you have damage to a piston and cylinder head from a foreign object. The rusted studs are from a leaking head gasket (common problem as well). I recommend that the engine be completely disassembled as there are almost certainly a few other serious problems that you haven't seen yet. The small holes in the cylinder head port appear to be pinholes caused during the casting process. It's not the best but not unusual. You are a candidate for a complete engine rebuild. Expensive but necessary. Image Unavailable, Please Login
We'll try to help him! SCORAF, maybe you could post post here in French and since some of us can translate we will be pleased to do so for you. Salut SCORAF! Comme je le mentionnais ci-haut, publie tes messages dans la langue de Molière et nous nous ferons un plaisir de les traduire pour toi! You're in for a big project! Good luck! Do you have the driver's side rear wheel?
Thanks 2NA , et merci a EFFER , pour son aide sur la traduction . Comme j'ai essayé de vous dire , je decouvre au fur et a mesure les problemes mecanique sur cette countach qui n'a pas roulé depuis 10 ans , l'ancien proprietaire s'en est désinterressé , depuis qu'il roule en audi R8 v10 , le chanceux . Bref mon reve d'adolescent et mon experience des moteurs RENAULT , me permette de m'initier dans la mécanique LAMBO , beaucoup plus simple depuis que certains m'ont envoyé le manuel d'atelier . Aujourd'hui ma question est qu'est ce a permit a l'eau d'aller dans l'huile , ou vu de ce que j'ai trouvé , il s'agirait du joint de pompe a eau , arbre totalement rouillé . apres ma seconde question est , pourquoi la quasi totalité des goujouns sont rouillés ? en regardant de prés , je vois dans les trous des goujous beaucoup de porrosité dans l'aluminium , est ce que cela ne serait pas communiqaunt avec la chambre a eau ? je vais essayé de controler l'étancheite du metal avec un fixateur /revelateur la semaine prochaine . la semaine prochaine je termine le reconditionnement es culasses , car la place dans mon garage commence a manquer , puis j'ouvrirai le carter pour voir l'état des coussinets . Oui bien sur ce moteur demande toute l'attention du monde et peu etre m^me plus , mais il faut savoir que sur l'ile de la reunion , malheureusement les professionel competant se font rare , alors je decide de faire le maximum de chose par moi m^me et dans les meilleur conditions possible . le rajout de coussinet sur les arbres a cames sont l'ideal , mais impossible ici , donc je me contenterai d'un ajustement a l'alesoir , faute de mieux . D'or et déja je sais qu'il va me falloir une pochette de joint complete ( peu etre plus apres ) ma countach est une LP112C n° de série 12761 . si quelqu'un peu me donner de bonne adresse pour des pieces "abordables" je le remercie . Et encore desolé pour mon anglais . Amicalement scoraf
Translation for our English speaking friends: ( I'll try to do my best! ) As I said earlier, I realize little by little all the amount of work this restoration implies with this Countach that sitted for about ten years; to previous owner did not touch it since he bought an Audi R8 V10. Lucky guy. It was a childhood dream to own a Lamborghini and strong with experience acquired with Renault engines it gave me all the necessary motivation to handle such a project; to see myself playing/learning the role of a Lambo mechanic! A situation now easier since I have the maintenance manual. Today I tried to discover why water leaked into oil. I found that this was caused by a defective water pump seal which is now completely rusted. I also tried to explain why the studs were rusted? I have also noticed that there was signs of porosity in the aluminum when I looked in the stud holes; could this be a consequence of presence of water coming from the cooling system? I will try to verify the aluminum integrity against leakage with some fixer and revealing chemical products next week. Next week I'll be done with cylinder heads; a good thing because I need space in my garage. I will also check the camshaft bushings (?). I know this engine will need lots of attention and work and that it is difficult to find competent mechanics here at La Réunion Island so I have to try to do myself most of the job. Adding bushings ( or fitting inserts like 2NA said ) is the best approach but impossible to do here now, so I will go for now with only bore adjustments ( translator note: not to confound with boring ). I now that I will need a complete set of gaskets (?). Anybody knows a place to find them at a cheap price? And I am sorry for my English. End of translation. Hope this will help! Cheers everybody!
There is no "cheap price" for anything Lamborghini. Head gaskets are particularly expensive and only available a few places. Since you are in Europe it might make sense to try this company directly. http://www.sangalliguarnizioni.com/inglese/dove.html As I mentioned before casting porosity is not uncommon on these engines. It may be repairable by TIG welding but in cases where it isn't causing a leak or structural problem it is best left alone. The water pump is not a complicated assembly but it can be surprisingly difficult to rebuild one that is heavily corroded and not have it leak again immediately. The Countach has the advantage that the pump is a completely separate part and can be assembled and tested before installing in the engine. Be careful to repair this correctly and be sure that the "weep hole" is clear of debris.
bonjour EFFER , si tu peux me traduire cela , aujourd'hui j'ai travaillé sur la deuxieme culasse , aucune mauvaise surprise , ouffffff , demain je finierai le polissage des conduits admission et echappement . Oui j'ai les jantes arriere , que je prepare pour les envoyer en peinture , il me faut la reference de la couleur OR ? http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1148489&stc=1&d=1275932095 autre question , qui a mis un disque kevlar sur sa countach ? peut on me dire si c'est positif ou negatif comme experience ? Je recherche egalement les bas de caisse d'origine de la 5000S en occasion , car je n'aime pas les 25éme anniversaire . merci d'avance . ce week end je posterai des photos du vilbrequin et carter a+ Image Unavailable, Please Login
Translation; Today I worked on cylinder head no. 2, no bad surprises at all, oooooffff, tomorrow I will try to complete polishing of intake and exhaust system. Yes I have the rear wheels which I am now fixing before sending them to the paintshop. Anybody knows the color code for copper finish? http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1148489&stc=1&d=1275932095 Another question, anbody tried to put a Kevlar disc on their Countach ( translator note: maybe he is referring to a Kevlar clutch ??? ) Is it worth it or not? I am also looking to find pre 5000 QV rocker panels because I do not like those on the 25th Anniversary. Thanks in advance. Next weekend I will post pictures of crankshaft and engine block (?) CU Later! End of T. Please accept my apologies for my miserable translation. Effer
Tu fait le travail de le bon dieu. Diue te Binie. You are doing God's work. Bless you. Does it sound like this guy has the ability to do all the machine work? He can always ship out the parts and we can recommend where to ship them.
