002C

Do you have any idea where that body is now?

 

Jim
031 S with Motto body ex-002 C was owned at the time by Edmond Williman of Briarcliff Manor/NJ. He used it as a vintage racer. In 1984 Howard Gilmore had the chassis 031 S only. In 1992 Dick Merritt had the motor only of 031 S for sale. Don't know if Williman kept the Motto body or what happened to it.

Here is a photo showing 002 C at Pebble Beach 1983 with the newly fabricated body.
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Thanks!

More on 002C

http://www.velocetoday.com/people/people_34.php

 

Anybody have Cavallino issues:
15: page 55
19: page 16
22: page 11

 

And this is how #031S was before the Motto body. Different plates on front and rear.
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I was told that the Motto body was sitting in a garage on the east coast, but have no idea who has it or if it really still exists.

I have a good article in Italian on Motto, and will make copies for anyone who sends me a SASE with two stamps on it..

 

September and October 1994 002 C was advertised in Gerald Roush's publication Ferrari Market Letter, see below:
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And here's a photo of the serial number plus the proof that it started life as type 159.
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002 C on the cover of the Meadow Brook Hall Concours Program 1997.
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That is correct 002C has never been restamped. It began as a 159 and did not begin as a 125. The 125's were destroyed by Ferrari but the chassis were likely reused by Ferrari and restamped. As I've come to believe several of Ferrari's chassis that are listed as having been destroyed seem to have survived. Even one that I'm fond of that was thought to have been destroyed and scrapped but that's a different 100+ page kettle of fish.

 

Which one is that Jim?

 

The one Nino Vaccarella and I are going to drive this June.

http://www.girodisicilia.com/

 

LOL

 

Pic of #002C at the Mille Miglia 1949.
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OK. Here's a question for all of you. See the Radiator grill in the MM photograph? Look's a bit nicer than the grill as it was when Sommer won the Turin GP in 002C. It was modified for that race. Should I make a nose like that?
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Ah Ha! I finally get to do a Napolis - Do whatever YOU like!

Dale

 

Agreed. I also think the MM nose looks better.

 

Jim,

A couple of questions:
- Wasnt the first Ferrari the 125 and not 166?
- The rear of your 166 seems to descend smoothly for the most part and then juts out towards the bottom (please see post #43 on Page 3 of this post). Why is it shaped like that? I think the later 166s had uniformly smooth rear end.

TIA

 

The 125 was first but none exist. They were likely rebuilt and restamped by Ferrari as 166s after 002C was built. (The 125 owned by Ferrari is a replica)
The 166 Spyder Corsa's 002C and 004C were shaped like that.
It does get a bit confusing.
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Cover of Sep 64 R&T is at http://home.earthlink.net/~fchat/images/166%20Cover%20Rev%201.jpg

400k file

Jim: where do you want me to send the high res, un-modified versions of the article itself? E-mail me or PM me.

Each page is about 2 MB.

 

I like the lokk of the MM nose better...by the way, does anyone know what the round badge near the cockpit is?

 

That cover shot is 004C (Note Grill & Mud Flaps) While 002C was not the first Ferrari (The 125's were) I guess as it's the earliest Ferrari that still exists in it's original form (159s/166s) Phil Hill's calling it: "The world's oldest Ferrari" in the 50th Anniversary issue of Road & Track makes sense.

 

ps In the what it is worth department (very little clearly), I like the MM look better.

Dr "MM" Who

 

This is the team badge, like Scuderia Sant'Ambroeus or else.

 

Yes, flows with the curvy lines of the car more vs the linear flat grill.

002 is quite a incredible car, a real time capsule from Enzos younger days with his fingerprints all over it.