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From a design standpoint, I'm happy it's the anti-Lamborghini...

 

Lots of naysayers, but this car needs to be the right color. TDF / Cuoio would be my combo.

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After taking time to look at it again. I don't think I'll like this one as much. It makes the busy 812C look gorgeous. I tried to like it each time but I feel let down somehow. F12 and 812 values might shoot up after this. But once people start to get them. It may change because everyone like the new shiny toy.




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Love TDF / Cuoio. To my eyes, looks fantastic on this car except...against the black bits.

 

Canna di Fucile

Now that is beautiful.

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I really like the back design. “Delta Wing” is what they call the alternating white then black then white banding. I love this portion personally.

Overall, I have to more clearly refine what I said in another thread. IMO it's not really a futuristic version of a retro car. Rather it looks like what an 1960s-1970s designer would make for a wild concept car of the future. Not to be built then because it wasn't possible. 1969 designer’s concept car comes to life.

Also, the new dash looks easier to view.

 

How much does F167 produce？

 

Since I mentioned dash, here is a pic that shows some dash. You can see much bigger font and much less complexity. Like it.

sorry the uploaded image is getting pixelated. The furthest right has a car menu to pick through audio, adas, vehicle, etc.

On a good note, it’s now 4 viewing areas and not 5.
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does it hide them too much?

 

830 CV/HP
819 BHP

 

If you look closely, that name is pretty sad. The fact for the car to have a 12 cylinders IC engine is considered so miraculous that it justifies to be the name of the car. 12 cylinders cars, from Mercedes coupes to Ferrari , where quite common 15 years ago.

Same goes for the 911R, wich was just was the basic 911 should have been, and was sold as an exceptionnal jewel because it was a high revolving natural aspirated engine with a manual gearbox.

They take everything from you, and than sell you the average as exceptional.

I'm born 20 years too late.

Sorry I feel grumpy this morning ahah

 

I did not manage to go to Miami so I find it difficult to express an informed opinion from pictures. One thing is certain: Manzoni’s designs are difficult to judge from release pictures and take time to appreciate. I was there for the SP3 launch. Seeing the car took my breath away, then I read all over Fchat that it looks terrible…Two years on, most people consider it one of the most beautiful Ferrari cars ever made.

I am getting a Dodici Cilindri Spider which looks incredible even in the pictures, but I expect that opinions on the car will shift once the demonstrators hit the showrooms


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How many units？？？？

 

How many F167 units？

 

Ahh sorry thought you meant power ..

No one knows at this stage of course.We don't even know 812 totals yet...

My wild guess for total 812 would be +/- 10K .

Would not be surprised if F167 matches or exceeds it...so if you want one you will probably get it ....eventually.

 

I agree that was my point in the last bit. I think Pininfarina design will be recognized more due to not being a retro design. I also agree on the TDF and Competizione prices. But I'm talking looks. You don't go from the F12 to 812 competizione to this. Normally when there is a design change you go forward. This is a retro fit on an already strange looking car, at least to me and many others. I was very excited to see the car. After going to sleep and waking up it. I'm not feeling it at all. Interior is pretty nice though...

Because of it, I don't have the highest hope for the Laferrari replacement now. Even if they pull the design off, with a twin turbo V6. If it's anything like the AMG One with an F1 engine. It'll more than likely get banned here in the USA. So possibly a V6 from the 296.

 

Sorry if someone has answered this before but is CarPlay available on the centre screen?

 

I miss Pininfarina.

 

Any word yet from dealers what criteria they are using to select customers for spider vs coupe? Is it just a local dealer decision or factory influenced.

 

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Remember the cohort bias of the people going to the event are more than likely already going to buy it. It self selects for that crowd more than all comers.

 

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Please explain ?

 

And Enzo or La Ferrari were not?

Dodici cilindri. Kind of like the Italian version of V8 Ford. A very common term in the 30's.