16M

I always thought the 16M name for the last 430 Scuderia series
was to conmemorate Ferrari 16 World Championships


but today I'm counting them all
and they are "only" 15

What am I missing ?


2 Ascari
1 Fangio
1 Hawthorn
1 Hill
1 Surtees
2 Lauda
1 Scheckter
5 Schumacher
1 Raikkonen
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15 Mondial Titles

what's wrong ?

 

You're counting drivers titles not constructors titles, of which Ferrari has won 16. It celebrates Ferrari's 16 constructors titles.

 

the 17m may be a ways off!

 

sad but true.

 

Trivia question. In what year did they win constructors but not drivers?

 

2008?

 

The pay off for Formula one is the constructors championship.



Ago

 

1999 I guess that must be the title off my list is missing

Hakkinen won the driver's title

 

Ding !

Schumacher broke his leg during a crash at British GP that year and Mika Salo stood in his place for 3(?) races. Eddie Irvin was fighting with Hakkinen for the title that year but lost. However, Ferrari did win the WCC title that year which makes it 16 WCC titles. Hopefully, 17th and many more will follow soon.

 

Ferrari also won the constructors title in 2008 with Lewis Hamilton winning the drivers championship after passing Trulli in the last corner of Brazil, beating Massa by 1 point.

 

So I guess there will be a 17M version of the 458 in the near future then

 

No that only makes 16. They won the title in: 1961, 1964, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008. The 16M was introduced in 2009 to celebrate the 2008 win. Sadly I think a "17M" is a ways off. That won't happen until Ferrari starts building a good car again, instead of hiring the best driver on the grid to drive a pig.

 

Nope. It's next year. LDM needs to introduce the new 458 17M for 2014 deliveries.

 

I think you just like sitting on lists Bob.

 

then who won driver's title without the constructor's and when ?

 

I have no idea. I was sure one of you would know.

 

They started awarding the constructors championship in 1958. In that season Mike Hawthorn won the WDC for Ferrari however Ferrari lost the WCC to Vanwall.