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1995 F40 ????

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by stocky, Jan 28, 2008.

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  1. stocky

    stocky Formula Junior

    Oct 25, 2005
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    Noticed a nice F40 in manchester yesterday at the stratstone dealers , reg N796FAK , this indicates it was registered after august 1995 ? is this correct ? i also noticed that this car was at silverstone last june for the 60th celebrations, must be one of the last registered F40,s out there .......... does anyone know any more info ? thanks , Andy.
     
  2. RTB

    RTB Formula 3

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    A car is registered when a car is registered. It doesn't mean that it was built in 1995 though...... Unless it's a Brunei car.......!!
     
  3. SSNISTR

    SSNISTR F1 Veteran

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    The only F40's built after 1992 were race cars. A few LM and GTE's if I remember right....
     
  4. ddemuro

    ddemuro Formula 3

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    This is inaccurate. Under your theory a foreign-market F40 brought in tomorrow would get a 57-reg! In the U.K., vehicles bearing an age identifier must be the same age as or younger than the age identifier - but not older (source). This is done to prevent fraud. Consequently, an N-plate car must have been manufactured in 1995 or later.

    According to the UK DVLA's Car Data Check site, that registration number is on a 1995 vehicle with 2,936cc (which is the exact displacement of the F40's V8). Take that for what it's worth.
     
  5. stocky

    stocky Formula Junior

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    thanks for your input guys , i too was under the impression that you couldnt make a car look younger than it was , hence my original question . thanks , Andy.
     
  6. al70

    al70 Karting

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    99.9% it will be a '92 car that sat unreg'd for a few years, rather than an F40 built in '95, as some seem to be suggesting.

    I had a Caterham 7 that was an ex-race car so never reg'd for road. When I bought it and reg'd it for the road, it was assigned current year date, which was about 4yrs after its actual build date. You have to provide documentation backing up that it has never been used on the road.
     
  7. Simon

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    As RTB said, it has nothing to do with manufacture only with the date of registration. If your foreign import was never previously registered then it would get a 57 plate if you imported it today. If it has already been registered in that foreign country then it cannot carry a number newer than the date of registration.
     
  8. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
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    No you're not correct. It relates to first registration not date of manufacture. If a car has never been registered anywhere and you register it today it would be given an 08 reg (or whatever is current - haven't got used to the current silly age plates in the UK). If it had previously been registered in, for example, 1992 in Germany, then you would get a 1992 plate (or earlier if you so requested) when it was first registered in the UK.

    This particular car is chassis number 95249 and is one of the last made, but it would have been made at the end of 1992. There is an F40 in the UK on a 51 plate. That car happens to be a very early car (probably made in 1989 or early 1990) and was just (presumably) never registered until 2001.

    Jonathan

    Edit: Simon beat me to it!!!
     
  9. Simon

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    Yes but you had examples to back up your explanation. Mine just seems like the ramblings of a mad man :)
     
  10. stocky

    stocky Formula Junior

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    ah , thanks Jonathan and Simon , i appreciate your input ,
     
  11. stradman

    stradman Formula 3

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    So what's the deal/story with this car. How many miles and what are they asking for it?
     
  12. ddemuro

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    That makes more sense - it's not about first U.K. registration, but first overall registration. Earlier it seemed like the prevailing attitude here was that any car imported to the U.K. got whatever plate was current at the time - but you and others have corrected that, saying that's not true if the vehicle was registered elsewhere first. Frankly I think it would be more logical to do it the way I mentioned (the plate is based on the vehicle year), but I can understand the theory behind doing it the way it's done.
     
  13. 512Tea Are

    512Tea Are F1 Rookie

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    Dear Comrades,

    The 1996 F-40 to which you refer and presently ensconced within a dealership's showroom is, I understand, merely there as a semi-permanent display centre-piece. It is owned by a customer and is not for sale.

    With kind regards,

    512 Tea Are
     
  14. stocky

    stocky Formula Junior

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    some interesting answers , thanks everybody for your input , Andy.
     
  15. 360C

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    I believe the last F40 actually built was a GTE Evo 2 in 1998. That's about the time F50 production was wrapping up.
     
  16. Birel

    Birel Formula 3

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    Hi Scott,

    I guess you are referring to chassis 99401 which is a serial number issued in late 1994. 1998 chassis numbers were in the six digit range 110xxx.

    Of course, this GTE could have been "laid down" in late 94 or 1995 and taken 3 years to finish. Whatever is the truth, there is every reason to believe Ferrari produced at least one new F40 frame 2 years after the production line closed.
     
  17. SSNISTR

    SSNISTR F1 Veteran

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    Actually right from QV500.com....

    "Only six GTE's were ever built by Michelotto, one in 1994, three in 1995, another in 1996 and one final car in 1998."
     
  18. 360C

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    Hi Andrew, that's the car. Correct on the chassis numbers, perhaps I should have said completed in 1998.
    Didn't Ferrari do some way out of sequence Enzo chassis numbers as well?
     
  19. SSNISTR

    SSNISTR F1 Veteran

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    Chassis # may be from 1994, but the model year of the car is stated to be a 1998.
     
  20. 360C

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    Refer post 15
     
  21. SSNISTR

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    My bad, somehow I missed that you said that already.
     

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