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  1. Ryan S.

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    So ive got a perfect Remington 270, thing has rarely been shot. Anyways, i was just trying to learn a little bit more about this gun and more importantly the 270 round. What are the positives/negs of this round? I need to get this gun shooting again, I havent shot it since before i broke my shoulder which was around 4 years ago. The gun really is nice though, looks so perfect with the leupold scope. Its a shame she doesnt get a workout more. Ill post a pic in a little..

    thxs for the help in advance,
    Ry
     
  2. 96impalaSS

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    Make sure the weapon is safe to fire first. Have you mainted it (cleaing and such) in the past four years? .270 is a good round, I think they used to be called a tack driver because they are so accurate people use to say tehy could drive a tack at a long distance. I prefer a 30-06 to a .270 but it really is just personal preference. .270 is an awesome round that I've fired a million times, good for Deer, Gophers, racoons, coyotes, pretty much any other varmint animal, and for target as well. God and with a leupold you could have lots of fun. What power is the scope anyways?
     
  3. CAS

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    Agree with the above: the round has an extremely flat trajectory and is very versitile. It doesn't have as much mass, but a high-grain .270 round is extremely powerful and effective.
     
  4. coolestkidever

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    when i read the title of the thread. I was like o great another election thread. you got me. Ive never shot 270. only 22, 9mm, 12 guage, and 45.
     
  5. thecarreaper

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    be sure its empty, clean it from the rear with the bolt removed. and enjoy it. its a great round and the R700 is a great rifle. you may want to invest in a quality brass cleaning rod kit. the cheap aluminum rods will damage the rifleing. cleaning a rifle from the muzzle end will also damage the critical rifling lands and grooves at the end of the barrel where they are most important. but i am sure you knew that already. :)
     
  6. el Carnicero

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    Friend of mine routinely and successfully hunts elk with a .270.
     
  7. Ryan S.

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    Like do they die of infection?


    J/K. A nice thru and thru chest shot would be just peachy with a .270.

    I killed a whitetail with a Colt .45ACP Gold Cup like that.
     
  9. FarmerDave

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    NO WAY! Was he in your living room stealing your VCR or something?

    details! pics! etc!

    Pistol, or carbine?
     
  10. UroTrash

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    I have a very accurate 1911 Series 70 Gold Cup pistol I used for target shooting. I had gotten bored with shooting deer with a rifle and thought maybe a bow, but despite what the bow hunters claim, they loose a LOT of deer.

    So it occured to me that I might start carrying the 1911 so If I had a 35 yard or less shot, straight thru the chest, I'd take it.

    Long story /short, about half way thru the season, carrying that pistol (as well as a rifle) tree stand 30 yard shot, still straight thru the chest, one big hop and down.

    230gr hollow point loaded fairly hot with a 17 pound spring.

    Same trip, my bro shot 3 with his .44 mag, S&W 6 inch barrel, no scope.
     
  11. FarmerDave

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    Great story. Is "Gold Cup" a factory round?

    And was it a "thru and thru" chest shot with a hollow point? I wouldn't think there's enough energy for that... regardless, a clean kill, from the way it sounds.

    Edit: 1911 is my favorite firearm. I don't have one anymore but my next gun purchase will likely be one.
     
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    #12 UroTrash, Jul 22, 2005
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    No a Gold Cup is a pistol that has been tuned at the Colt Factory Shop. Now a days, there are a lot of independent shops like Les Baer that tune 1911s, but the original "tuned" weapon came from the factory shop= Gold Cup. The series 70 is usually considered the best as the series 80 has an extra part in the hammer mechanism for saftey that degrades feel a little.

    My brother and his bud gave me a lot of grief for carring that pistol rather than a .44 mag, but I figured the way I loaded the cartridge, and the bullet I selected, it would be very similar to a .44 special; while not a .44 mag, a through and through chest shot on a still whitetail should work. And it did.

    With a hollow point on a heavy slow bullet like that, I waited for the perfect chest shot, passed on several (which I rifle shot earlier in the season). Didn't consider a shoulder or quartering shot etc, only a perfect through and through. A .45ACP hollowpoint works fine for a thin skin, 6 mm muscle, a 7mm rib, etc.

    Whitetail are pretty fragile.


    EDIT: this is not my weapon, but it is an identical Gold Cup:
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  13. mpolans

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    Gold Cup was Colt's target version of a 1911. Had adjustable rear sight, better front sight, slightly different trigger, and a couple extra parts of questionable value in the sear group.
     
  14. Evolved

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    The 270 is becoming more and more popular. IMO it's just not that great for killing bambi.

    BUT I don't shoot animals and the guns I have shot chambered for it were a real pleasure to shoot. Very accurate. Hell I put three rounds thru a friends 270 and I thought there was something wrong with the gun as there was only one hole on the target. Turns out the I shot all three almost on top of each other. Never done that before or since.

    I prefer my 300 remington magnum. Nothing like ripping holes through a railroad tie and a reminder in the shoulder that you're shooting something with nads.
     
  15. David_S

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    Uro, you've got my respect! I love the 1911, but have only used fairly ratted out pieces during quals & maintaining proficiency back in the USN. A 30 yard shot with a clean kill isn't half bad!
     
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    Thank you, but honestly, a tuned 1911 will make you think you are a pistol shooter. There's nothing like it. They are really, really accurate.

    I prepared for quite a while, shot that pistol a lot.

    That day I was hunting over a green plot. I paced off 20, 25, 30 and 35 yards and put a stick at each so I would know my range perfectly as it can be deceiving from a tree stand. I wanted it closer than 35 as I would shoot 5 or 6 inch groups at 35 (off hand), at 30 yards they were ALWAYS in a 4 inch group (again off hand), plenty good enough for a side-chest shot.
     
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    That's the Series 80 problem.
     
  18. Mario Gonzalez

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    I have a Remington 700 BDL .270 with a Leupold 2.5 to 8 pwr Vari X3 scope.

    flat out the best rifle for the money and a Leupold scope it top notch. I've had mine 12 years and it still looks like it came out of the box yesterday. I've got friends that love to impress me with their $3000.00 rifles but at the range I'll group my shots just as good as theirs if not better. for some reason their super expensive rifles are always at the shop getting something done to them. my Rem is still "as-is" from the factory.

    one suggestion, at the range, don't fire to many rounds consecutively because the barrel tends to bend after consecutive shots due to heat. this is not a machine gun, nor it was designed to fire many rounds in a short period of time. it was designed to kill dear one shot at a time. therefore, shoot three rounds and let it cool with the breach open (bolt back) and you'll see you shots in a nice group if sighted true. for sighting the rifle a good rule of thumb is to set the target at fifty yards and aim for dead center, your shot should be about one inch over dead center, that should put your shot close to center at 100 yards, then you can fine tune your elevation and windage more accurately. after your're cutting out the "X's" at a 100 yards, look over to the guy or your friend next to you that has an obscenely expensive H&K or something and ask him if he is also cutting out the "X's" too...

    have fun
     
  19. Ryan S.

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    awesome advice, ill definitely be using it!

    thanks again,
    Ry


    oh, and i know this has been gone over a billion times, but whats a fast way to resize pics? or whats the max dimensions that can be used on fchat? i know the max size is 190ish kb, but i cant seem to find where id resize a pic in photoshop(i found where you resize demensions, but not where you can reszize file size). hop that makes sense, i dont know crap about pictures other than how to push the button on the camera..
     
  20. Ryan S.

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    another question: anyone know if there are any law enforcement agencies or military branches that use the .270?
     
  21. UroTrash

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    Never heard of that, purely a sporting round.
     
  22. FarmerDave

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    Agreed. Our local guys are getting Ar-15's. That's a .223, same as the military version M-16.
     
  23. mpolans

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    Nah, the Series 80 has the firing pin block safety...that's definitely a useless bunch of parts. I was talking about part 32 and 33:

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  24. LightGuy

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    The 270 is a "wildcat"; A modified existing round. The base cartridge was the military 30-06 necked down to .270 caliber. It was and is my Dads favorite round.He had a Dual trigger Mannlicher/Schonaur (sp?) carbine in .270 which was my favorite rifle of all time. While I was in the military he traded it off for a Ruger single shot which he felt was more sporting, also .270 caliber. A bit flatter shooting than a 308 or 30-06 giving up a little down range oomph. All rounds about equal. The military 5.56 (223) an 7.62x39 are some military experts solution to a lack of proper training in marksmanship thus trading the quality of well placed single shots for a quantity of innaccurate multiple shots. These " Assult " rounds seem to have an edge in close in situations when quantity helps. Long range ? May as well issue white flags.
     
  25. Artherd

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    The .270Winchester is a great round. Flat shooting, and if you reload there are some great 7mm bullets to choose from with very high BCs (good aerodynamics) that will actually deliver MORE downrange energy than a .30-06! The .270 can be a 900 even 1000yd gun.

    Ryan S. Think that's extreme? Check this clown (me, heh) out: http://dreamwithyoureyeswideopen.com/7400/M82A1-Offhand.mov Can't beat a .50cal for sheer fun.
     

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