$300K Boxer?

What am I missing? It's for sale here.

 

Possibly "exploring" the market to see how many inquiries they get?

I had a friend years ago who used to do that routinely. In his case he never intended to sell...he used responses to gauge the market and the value of his cars.

 

If you read the 8 page Forza article that's referred to I think you'll agree that it's no ordinary Boxer.

 

probably trying to recoup the investment he has in that car

 

its not original, but i bet the mods are pretty high grade. likely worth the price for those wanting the performance and not worried about classiche issues.

 

And they are on the move up Carbon. So, given that this car has had a full restoration, and that I have followed Newman's thread, and seen all the stuff done, I don't disagree with the offered price.

Still, half the price of a similarly presented Daytona.


Seems like yesterday they were $70K.

 

I think the modifications are worth less than zero.

 

I like some of them...the wheels and all the carbon work is impressive (in pictures, at least). the overly blinged out engine bay, not so much.

 

They definatly are on the way up. Not quite 300k, but I'll bet they will hit an average price of 150k by next summer, with really clean examples hitting the 200k mark regularly

 

Usually those sort of mods don't add any value when you go to sell it, however.

 

Looks like the car is ruined IMO.

 

Pretty harsh opinion there Mr George. You'd have to see it in person. Whenever its parked next to a regular Boxer at a show - theres crowds surrounding it - while the others draw only the occasional viewer. In fact on many occasions I've seen the rear clams come down on the other Boxers within a short time.

 

That doesn't make it more valuable.

 

Perhaps not, and I would agree that is it true to a larger audience.

I personally value originality very highly with the last of the truly bespoke road cars from Maranello. But I feel compelled to defend markpeboxer and his car.

Instead of Mark, if Eric Clapton customized this Boxer (sound vaguely familiar?) it might be argued that it makes the car more valuable.

Markpeboxer's BB is not original, and that was not his driving goal when building the car. Not surprising that his results are viewed subjectively and with prejudice.

Tough to dispute that he built the car he wanted and that wherever it goes it draws a crowd. Also tough to argue the quality, time, and expense that went into the project (I remember following his thread and anticipating the next phase of the build.) But what is debatable is how much it will bring in the market. If and when it sells will speak on that topic.

 

I've definitely softened on this 'mod' mentality of late. Shawn Saunders 'mods' the heck out of Jaguar E types, making them go faster, cool better, stop better, just plain drive better. Oglers at car shows push semi-offended judges aside to get a look. His last one brought $245k.

No, not a 'money' issue of course, but Mark built this car with a vision that may be blasphemous to some who could be in decline vs the numbers who appreciate the vision.

Given the status of a semi finicky car parked in a garage or one out on the road taking its comfortable an unanxious passengers to a distant location seems to be gaining acceptance.

I'd not do it to mine, but I appreciate it nonetheless.

 

mark,

it is great to see you out here! I hope all is well and do know, many of us miss your posts and would love to have you back for more commentary on living with and enjoying that fantastic boxer you created!!

best,

pcb

 

agreed ross. and yes the mods were all done on what seemed like a no expense spared program.

William and I attempted to see this car in the flesh a few years back but were unsuccessful. I was excited to see the details as they appear to be many!!!

lovely car and while it may not be for all...it is for some and an effort like this many never be duplicated!

 

I actually like the engine mods, but would revert to stock wheels & tires and lose the carbon. Not a big deal really, and it would be a nice "wolf in sheep's clothing", but it's certainly not a $300k boxer (to me) either. Far be it from me to me to dissuade owners from modifying their cars to their own taste or desires. I just think it's unrealistic to think others will be willing to pick up the tab when it comes time to sell.