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  1. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    I've always advised anyone who asks not to buy a car as an investment. And yet ... I look at some of the cars, like the Boxer, and wonder whether their values will appreciate. There are 40 333 SPs, many with interesting history, and at any given time it seems at least one is for sale. Given the incredible values of vintage Ferrari competition cars, I wonder whether the 333SPs are a better long term buy at roughly Enzo MSRP than the Enzo itself. I don't know the market, curious what you folks think.
     
  2. wrathracer

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    I feel that any of the low production cars will be winners. The 333 sp is a great car that can be driven by anyone with a little care. It is very easy to drive, much easier than most production 12's or 8's.

    Remember that cars with race history are good investments, even better with winning race history.
     
  3. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3 Consultant

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    This could very well be Ferraris last all out sports racer. They are expensive to maintain are parts are sometimes difficult to obtain. A prospective purchaser needs to do his homework. Engine rebuilds have been quoted at upwards of $100K. What many guys do is sell their cars just before they're due for a rebuild. Be careful!! I am about to publish a new website dedictaed to these great cars www.333SP.com. We will have parts, information, and technicall assistance for owners and enthusiats alike. We are also buyers of 333SP parts, technical info, and memorabilia. I am working on #017 and it is the coolest!
     
  4. Bertocchi

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  5. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    Do you need engine rebuild after 24 hours?
     
  6. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3 Consultant

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    The factory literature called for a "light rebuild" after two races and a major rebuild after two light rebuilds. Since the cars were basically designed as Sprint racers I am not sure what this meant from a time standpoint. I would imagine a full twenty four hour race was about the longest one could go.
    Believe it or not these engines do better if run at high rpms due to the oiling system. The engine almost starves for oil at low rpms. I am sure that most of rotating parts get thrown in the trash during each rebuild.
     
  7. vince308

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    keep us informed about your site, love to see it.

    the car sn#017 is one of the coolest, 2 Belgian guys drove it in the past....

    another 333SP site : http://come.to/333SP
     
  8. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3 Consultant

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    Vince, We are inventorying the parts we have for sale and photographing them for the site. I am anxious to publish and will do so hopefully next weekend. It is a part time endeavor, a passione!
     
  9. vince308

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    Tell me what is the cheapest part you have for a ferrari collector like me....even used or not working anymore...

    I already own a complete front rim wheel OZ, but something elso could interest me.
     
  10. scuderia47

    scuderia47 Karting

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    ive also heard that after 24 hours of running time, a rebuild is required.

    will the 333SP be the 250 GTO of the future?
     
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    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    24h of use ..thats like 12 track days ? and 100 000$ for a rebuild ..wow thats not a cheap toy..
     
  12. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Here a few pics from the one running in Chicagoland. The good doctor tracks it regularly. I remember well the sight of it coming up in my rear view mirror. It didn't stay long there...

    Has an amazing sound, not like a car engine, more like a jet engine.
     
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  14. Bertocchi

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    Tifosi, Do you know the chassis number of the good doctor's car? Is this the 333SP at Continental Motors? I am try to keep track of who has which car, Thanks!!
     
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    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Yes, that's the car, but I don't have a s/n. Ask FChatter Rennmaus, she probably has the s/n.
     
  16. Bertocchi

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    I have done my homework and the Doctor's car is #033 and Benny's is #028.
    Any more pictures?
     
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    I took this picture in 2002 at Mont-Tremblant.

    Must belong to Lawrence Stroll because I know he owns a 333 (He bought it in 2000.) and he owns the circuit Mont-Tremblant.
    serial number: 023.
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    when will it be on line ?

    greetings, vincent
     
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    Brian C. Stradale F1 Rookie Lifetime Rossa

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    When I first read that statement, I accepted it immediately as logical. However, last night, after reading Automobile magazine's article on track cars, I read their following article on the Radical sports racer. Then it occurred to me...

    With the success of the Stradale and the success Radical is having with their sports racer that's also street legal in the UK... perhaps Ferrari would consider making a $100-150K version of the Radical that adds what's needed to make it street legal in the US. It would be a 333SP-like car... a two-seat sports racer with adjustable suspension that, with the touch of a button, gives you streetable clearance... it would have Challenge Stradale like maintenance (as opposed to $100K rebuilds)... but it would be as light as possible sports racer carrying a bit extra for the street (like lights and crash protection).

    Hmmm... oh, if I were only Luca or Jean Todt! ;)
     
  20. Parker

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    After looking at the cockpit shot of the 333sp, I am curious what kind of gearbox these cars use?

    Also, it was said in one of the earlier posts that "It is very easy to drive, much easier than most production 12's or 8's". What makes it so easy to drive? From the looks of them, I always thought they would not be overly easy to pilot.
     
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    the 333 SP is my favorite to see and hear running at the track!!!!!
     
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    msdesignltd Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    Is That wondering whether the Boxer will appreciate an optomistic or pesimistic wonder?????????
     
  25. Bertocchi

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    The 333SP gearbox is a sequential gearbox and shifts much like a motorcycle. There is a seperate lever for selecting reverse. As far as easy to drive, the car likes front end caster which makes the steering heavy at low speeds. Need to eat your Wheaties! The Risi team at one time installed a power steering system of their own design in order to run more than 7 degrees caster. Me Tarzan, you Jane!
     

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