Kamikaze Sato

Well in Monte Carlo he did jump start but no action was taken because he went out so early. The officials did not have any time to issue a penalty.

 

Yes, i agree.
Sato is a Gun.
I think that he just gets excited when he is up near the front of the field. He has to learn that he needs to be calm so that he can make sane decisions, unlike the one made on Rubens........

 

It is nice to see a Japanese driver who actually deserves his seat in F1. I think he is the first to earn that right, so I can forgive him some escapades.

 

I just hope that the Michael - JPM conflicts aren't sending young drivers the message that they have to be insanely aggressive to run up at the front.

 

Where do you think Michael learned that he can get away with bumping other drivers (Hill, Villeneuve) or doing his trademark starting line zig zag? He was sitting front row watching Prost and Mansell fight with Senna. And Senna got away with a lot.

BTW: That's not just my opinion. Just read the MS biography.

 

Sato is doing great for his first year in F1 (I think it is first year). Come on we all make a few mistakes when we first start.

Personally I would rather have a fast driver that made mistakes than a SLOW cautious driver. Remember F1 is all about winning ...

Look at Hakenin when he started ... in his first season I think he only made it through the first corner about 3 times . Remember Gilles ... it was a miracle if he made it through the first corner.

Also RB critizing somebody for attempting a pass is a bit rich ... RB has not made a pass in the last 2 years ... atleast Sato is trying.

Pete

 

Uh, oh, of all the folks you make such a mistake Pete?

Sato has been around for a while. On and off. He ain't no rookie. But as I said, driving damn good for a Jap. That's not a racial slur, it's just that I'm glad we finally have a Japanese driver who deserves the best seat in racing.

 

2 mistakes for the PSk ... oh no. Now I have an excuse because I am not well ... .

Well regarding Sato it took Hakenin many years to stop being a danger to being around. I still think Sato is fast. Time will tell now that he has a fast car whether he has got it or not.

As for RB, okay I'll amend my comment to 'RB has not made any passes in approximately a year'

Pete

 

Wrong again. Passes on the track are the same as tactical passes in the pits or using pit strategy. It not Rubens fault that he is smart. look at the last race. he ended up in second. So he did pass. He was smart and avoided risk. 2 stop startegy. passed the average drivers in the pits. So continuing from the other thread... rubens is a great driver.

 

BS, no way are they the same in my book. May end up with the same result but big difference.

For the record: RB is a GOD and I go to bed wishing I was even 1% like him.

Now does that make you happy!.

Man some of you are a bit of a worry. Surely we are allowed to discuss and critise Ferrari drivers, and BTW just because they drive or drove for Ferrari does not make them good (remember Berger and Alesi .... and many others). This site is becoming pathetic ...

Pete

EDIT: I'll even go as far to say that MS is not perfect. MS is like a jaded jewel, unbelievable 98% of the time, but when he fncks up it is for stupid liitle minor things that we cannot understand why.

He also is a little weak under pressure and hence the Jerez incident with Jaques Villeneuve. MS cracked and his pace fell off and allowed JV to catch him and heap the pressure on.

MS at Spa when he crashed into DC. Another stupid incident, that should never have happened and he would have won the WC (probably).

The gearchange/clutch/stalling problems at Suzuka (98 ?). Yes they were technical but caused by a nervous MS racing around on the warm up lap so he had to sit on the grid for tooooooo long. Hakenin (probably Ron via the head phone) saw this and slowed up to make MS's car sit for even longer. Naturally the sensor (whatever) overheated.

Monaco with JPM, what a bloody idiot. He put himself in a position to get hit, hardly smart.

Remember also the US GP when he spun when leading by miles ... oops, lucky to get away with that.

Brilliant but strange little flaws ...

 

I believe it goes a bit something like this. If you don't like it, leave it. Its a free world. Noone is forcing you to post here.

Also RB is not God. I just think he is a great driver. Just because he is smart does not mean he is not great. I never said anything about Alesi and berger. RB is a smart and great driver.

Yes, you can criticise. I shall defend. I think Rubens is a great and passionate driver. Ferrari, his own family and thousands of his supporters are proud of his great driving achievements and great driving abilities.

 

Okay mate lets agree to disagree

When RB wins a WC I will buy you a beer ... if he retires without a WC you can buy me one.

Pete

 

Ok I will even fly down to Sydney to honor this bet. Absolutely love visiting Australia.

 

Excellent, thus we have a friendly bet

Pete

 

I know, I watched many of those races live. And I was never much of a Senna fan. "Aggressive" is just about all there was to him. I saw him hit the wall approching the tunnel at Monaco when he was way out in front; apparently he couldn't stay focused without someone to battle with. I've seen him collide with a clearly faster Williams apparently from not being able to realize that the faster car was going to pass him. Whether that was because he wasn't watching his mirrors, or because he refused to believe what they were telling him, I can't say. I've seen him hold up a race for a dozen laps, because he was in a slow car out front, and wouldn't acknowledge that the faster cars were going to get around him sooner or later.

Come to think of it, I did hear, back then, that the Japanese fans loved Senna's "crash or win" attitude.

But being in the 'States, I can watch a dumbolition derby any time -- we call it "rush hour".

Aggressiveness you can see from a frustrated office drone in an Explorer. I watch F1 to see skill -- something our roads don't have in abundance.

 

Well DGS, Senna wasn't just aggressive, but also faster than everyone else around the track at the same time. 65 pole positions during his 10 year F1 career speaks for itself. So there's the 'skill' component you're after.

 

Agree with your post Pete..I'm as big a Schuey fan as there is, BUT this is racing and even if you question Sato's tactics, you can't question his desire. Now driving with an engine borderline on the cusp of blowing, I'm not so sure. But, I think it is refreshing for F1 to have a guy like this on an up-and-coming team who looks for opportunities.

 

I'm not talking about the "skill" of jumping to the fastest team.
Except for the year(s) that Williams/ELF(Renault) wouldn't have him, and he wound up in a McClaren/TAG(Porsche) that was just in the way.

My memories of Senna come from watching him drive (and crash), not from a historical retrospective.

And, to Prost fans, Senna was the JPM of his day. (I figured those comments would light up the Senna fans.)

 

Really? I find there's too many Australians every time I visit Sydney.