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Discussion in '308/328' started by miketuason, Jul 11, 2019.

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  1. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Advance to 0:27 and 2:23
     
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  2. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    Engage brain before putting car in gear....

    Truthfully, the scenes from race tracks and drag strips really don't count - it's the incidents on public roads that should never happen.
     
  3. Saabguy

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    Agreed, but why do people driving in a straight line crash??
     
  4. thorn

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    Modern high performance cars have far more torque than what people had in the 80s and 90s.

    Remember when Eddie Griffin crashed that Enzo? It's not about about driver aids nor lack of .. it's about having more power than you know how to handle.
     
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  5. Brian A

    Brian A F1 Rookie

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    There is an element that IS related to the driver's aids. Like fighter jets, things can happen so fast on modern cars that human reflexes can't respond quickly enough anymore.

    There was an incident with a then-new BMW M4 that lives in infamy near where I live and probably contributed to the eventual shutdown of a monthly Cars and Coffee event:



    It is interesting that the driver did not counter-steer and only applied brakes after he was sideways. The back end did come out quickly though. There is a major intersection just a few hundred yards ahead and the driver may been initiating a lane change and the car instead "thought" the driver was inducing a left hand drift. There is no excuse for not attempting counter-steer though. There was time. Presumably the car would have automatically reduced power if it's computers had received counter-steer input.
     
  6. thorn

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    Oh, true - no argument there at all.

    What I meant was: driver aids can keep you out of trouble (sometimes), but - with or without them - cars are putting out more power than ever, for less money than ever. A Hellcat in the hands of a newbie, for example - it's just asking for danger.

    Certainly something like torque vectoring may lull a weak driver into a sense of control, but even without the feature they'd be risking losing control if they're pushing beyond their skill level.
     
  7. kcabpilot

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    I just have to wonder - what would possess a person to give a thumbs up to a video like that?
     

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