UFC and MMA Thread

Just watched 102 last night and it will be a classic. A great night for the UFC for sure. Something for eveyone with a couple of 1st round demolitions, submission fights and Couture and Nog was awesome to watch. Nog looked great! And Randy is just one of the toughest SOB's in MMA without question. Nog did everything he could to sub him but he always found a way out. And how about Couture signing on for 6 more fights?? ...and the dude is 46!!

 

Excellent night!

I can't believe the Maia/Marquardt fight. I guess that's the way to beat a BJJ ace!

Thiago Silva looked really good.

Couture/Nogueira was very entertaining. Excellent fight!

I can't believe out of all of the undercard fights they ended up showing, the Gonzaga fight was not one of them.

 

The UFC must do something about kicks to the groin. It cannot afford many the outcome of more fights to be affected as this one was. The video of CT suffering/trying to recover from the effects of the kick is solid evidence for the need to change the ruling about damage inflicted by low kicks and continuation of the fight after a recovery timeout.

 

Did you see what happened in that fight? I don't blame the UFC for not wanting to air it...

And yes, inside leg kicks should have been banned a LONG time ago.

 

Just saw that bout and WOW that was a nasty nasty shot.

What's worse is CT could not get an answer inside the ring on what would happen if he couldn't continue. So he just said the hell with it and continued. His interview is here: http://mmajunkie.com/news/16062/for-ufc-102s-chris-tuscherer-unanswered-questions-just-as-damaging-as-brutal-groin-shot.mma

 

^ Thanks for posting that. I had a feeling someone was up when they showed CT scrambling to get up while the doctors/trainers were holding him down.

The fight should have been ruled a No Contest, no questions asked. I could understand if MAYBE this was a main event or a title fight that they would want to continue, but it was freaking undercard match. The rest of the fight was just hard to watch as CT was basically a punching bag.

Unfortunate way to debut...

 

I didn't see the Gonzaga fight. Where can it be seen?

 

I found it here: http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Gabriel-Gonzaga-vs-Chris-Tuchscherer-Fight-Video

 

Damn.....they removed it.

 

Geez I watched it only 2 hours ago. Try Googling around for it. Or I guess you can pay $1.99 to watch a fight on UFC on demand.

 

kizdan, Here you go: http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Gabriel_Gonzaga_vs_Chris_Tuchscherer_UFC_102?vid=10006234&tid=100

 

Found it. Wow, didn't realize it was the very first strike thrown.....that was brutal. Definitely not worth broadcasting.

 

This sucks..........

Swick out at UFC 103, Daley vs. Kampmann set for main card of Sept. 19 event

http://mmajunkie.com/news/16086/swick-out-at-ufc-103-daley-vs-kampmann-set-for-main-card-of-sept-19-event.mma

Looks like GSP will take on Kampmann next, unless something out-of-the-ordinary happens.

 

*yawn*

GSP needs to move up in weight. These fights are starting to bore me.

 

Thing is that he is demolishing the competition so badly that it leaves little interest for rematches. I thought both Fitch and Alves would have put up better fights, but he walked right through them.

It's too bad Sanchez went down to LW, as he is such a dynamic fighter. Also, I was hoping Condit would prove to be a worthy challenger, but his debut in the UFC didn't quite show that. I'd love to see Jake Shields come into the UFC, and also Nick Diaz.

The thought of GSP vs Kampmann or Swick does bore me.

 

I agree, The only fights that would interest me in 170 would be GSP vs Shields & Diaz.

 

Jake Shields would be an interesting match up.

 

Why do fighters do it? Wouldn't training and fighting at a specific weight be more productive than walking around and training at a weight 10-20 lbs over, then cutting that weight right before the fight?

Also, how can a fighter gain so much weight in one day? I have seen guys weigh in at an exact weight then the next day come into the fight 10 lbs heavier for the fight? How can you gain 10lbs in one day?

I would think, training, walking around and fighting at one specific weight would be more beneficial for the body to get used to that one specific weight than the body fluctuating drastically for fights, etc...

 

What is the actual outcome of some fights where an accidental strike, kick, eye poke, etc is given? If I accidentally poke someone in the eye in the first round and they cannot continue is the fight a no-contest, disqualified, win for me? I have seen this go both ways but think there would be some kind of standard...

 

There should be a rule/standard, but if there is, it isn't being enforced. There should also be a rule about fighter fitness coming into the fight (Nog obviously wasn't fit to fight Mir). The UFC owes it to the fighters, the fans, and itself.

 

I thing we will see instant replay being used very shortly. Unfortunately, if something illegal affects the natural outcome of a fight, it ruins the fight for the fans, but fair is fair. If they have to stop the fight to review, and end it because of what they see, so be it. I'd rather it be fair.

There are many fights I can think of where an offending fighter got away with something, and won the fight because of it.

 

This is really a tough question to answer. It's always been the thought that if you are naturally 185 pounds, then cutting to 170 would make you a "bigger" 170 pounder. That's partially true if you are allowed to gain it back over the next day.

I know of the practice from wrestling, but the problem with that is you can't really gain the weight back before a match since you wrestle a consistent schedule over the school year. It can backfire if you cut too much as you get weaker if you lose too much weight.

I have to deal with this now as I enter my first Brazilian Jiu Jitsu tournament. I walk around at 185-190 pounds, but I have to weigh 181.5 (with Gi) to make the middleweight class. If I don't, then I have to roll with guys up to 194.5 - that's a significant disadvantage. Normally, losing 5-10 pounds isn't a big deal, but I have a healthy appetite. so I've had to push myself.

The tournament is this weekend, I am at 181, which is perfect for me since I walk around close to that weight. The low end of the class is 170, so I'll be among the biggest guys in the class (assuming most aren't cutting down -- reality is, all of them are). Take it for what it's worth, but in theory, I have an advantage should anyone come in around 170.

FWIW...

 

I would guess that they find it is more advantageous to be able to come into the ring heavier than their opponent. Enough so to make the weight cutting and gaining worthwhile.

I believe the weight is all water - that would be my guess.

If they wanted to eliminate all of this, they should just do the weigh-ins right before they enter the ring.

 

Hey guys this is my first time posting in this thread...had no idea it even existed...im quite new to UFC...so be easy on me in the future with my un experience lol

but all i can say is that i am REALLY looking forward to UFC 106...i know its qute premature but still...how STACKED is this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_106

* Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin

* Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Tito Ortiz

* Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Ricardo Almeida

* Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

* Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni

* Welterweight bout: Dennis Hallman vs. John Howard

* Lightweight bout: Kenny Florian vs. Clay Guida

 

Couple things that are questionable. First is there is no listing of the fight card anywhere other than the wiki link. So nothing official from the UFC.
Second is that the date in the wiki link for 106 is 1 week after UFC 105. I doubt they would have 106 just 1 week after 105. At this point, considering the source, I wouldn't put too much stock in that card being accurate as nothing official has been announced yet.