At least I add car content and knowledge of cars, racing, and history, while others mouth off and do 180-degree turns on every discussion on here. How ya traveling John?
Where locals sit by the bank drink real coffee, eat biscotti, mouth off, bore each other talking about THEMSELVES, read Karl Marx's "Das Capital" and argue and bicker about how it is SO unfair they don't own any quality multi-properties because they never were successful in life or career AND call out anyone who will vote NO come October as a racist!
Inheritance taxes put on the Albanese agenda: Productivity Commission economist suggested targeting anyone passing on over $1 million to their kids (msn.com) The real Labor agenda finally rears its head again: inheritance tax and tax on your super! F&&^king communists.. $1 mill is virtually every house in a capital city..
It's not about the Money ! Native title claim over Redlands coast in Brisbane casts doubt on ownership of urban public spaces and amenities across Australia Story by David Southwell For Daily Mail Australia 11 September 2023 Native title claim made on Brisbane 3,500 public areas in city claimed Australia's first major native title claim of a large urban area is clouding the future of popular scenic areas, parks, playgrounds, cemeteries and even council buildings. The claim could infer native title rights on approximately 3,500 council-owned or managed properties in the Redlands coastal area of Brisbane, which is home to 165,000 people. Redland City Council Mayor Karen Williams said the claim, which was lodged in 2017 by the Quandamooka Yoolooburrabee Aboriginal Corporation, is a landmark case all Australians should pay attention to. 'It is the first time such a title claim has been made over an urban area in such quantity,' she told Daily Mail Australia on Thursday. Scenic drawcards such as Wellington Point (pictured) could become exclusive areas for native title holders under the claim© Provided by Daily Mail The first major native title claim has been made on an urban area, the Redlands region of Brisbane which has 165,000 residents© Provided by Daily Mail 'Some of those areas we will defend vigorously because they are important, a very important part, such as the coastal points in particular and cemeteries where, might I add, a lot of forebears and pioneers are buried.' Cr Williams said that the claim could deprive locals and visitors of access to popular scenic and recreational spots, which could be turned over for exclusive use by the claimants. 'We are a coastal city so we have Wellington Point, Victoria Point, Cleveland Point, where people will go for Sunday afternoon drive or they go fishing' she said. Despite the native title claimants having access to millions in federal funding to make their claims, the council will have to rely entirely on its own resources as it takes the case to the Federal Court. 'It does feel a little bit like we are on our own,' Cr Williams said. 'Obviously there are costs that ratepayers have to absorb. 'We have island communities and marine parks and ferries and an ageing population and not a very big commercial base so we feel every cent we have to spend.' Redland Council has extensive experience with native title after Stradbroke Island, which lies in its maritime boundaries, was given over to Native Title in 2011. Cr Williams said with native title 'you can either hand over the land or it could be compensation'. 'If you take North Stradbroke Island the compensation was partly handing over that land and giving them the traditional owners the council-owned business, the caravan park' she said. Cleveland Cemetery is an area Redland Council has committed to fighting for in the Federal Court© Provided by Daily Mail The Redland City Council buildings are also part of the native title claim being decided in the High Court© Provided by Daily Mail The Federal Court case comes after several years of negotiation where the list of council sites subject to the claim had been whittled down to 1,050 by the state government. Native title claims can be extinguished where there is either a previous grant of tenure and/or prior public works - with the onus on the council to prove this. However, the state government performed a U-turn dumping all 3,500 council-owned or managed sites back into the claim. 'We had spent a couple of years getting to that point so that was a big disappointment for us' Cr Williams said. 'That is where we decided to lodge in the court. 'We’re doing everything in power now with a great deal of time and resources to gather that evidence (of public works) on 3,000 properties.' With the less developed coastal areas, Council will dispute native title by showing the sites have been reclaimed, but it means digging out historical records. Cr Williams said that the uncertainty over sites subject to native title claims had put a freeze on planning and major capital works. 'We obviously take in account what areas have native title claims over it because we don’t want to invest further rate payers dollars into the landscape that may have to handed over,' she said. The mayor stressed what council ultimately wanted was clarity on what was in the claim, which was made difficult by dealing with both state and federal governments. 'We are absolutely as an organisation and council committed to reconciliation' she said. 'We agree with some of the areas that have claims. All we are seeking in clarity and a level of fairness.' A number of residents had expressed concern the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament would make council's job more difficult, but Cr Williams insisted this was not so. 'They think the referendum will have some input into how this is managed which is not the case,' she said. 'The Native Title Act is a pre-existing piece of legislation whatever happens to the Voice whether Yes or No we will still face this particular challenge.' Cr Williams conceded the Voice might influence the legislation in the future. Native Title versus Land Rights Only NSW and the NT have laws that enable Indigenous groups to claim land rights. All of Australia is subject to native title under federal legislation. Land rights mean a local Land Council can claim freehold ownership of any unused or misused Crown Land as recompense for historical dispossession. These claims are assessed by government departments. Native title is the legal recognition of the traditional rights and interests in land and water, where those rights and interests have continued by an Indigenous people connected to that land. It seeks to correct past injustice. It can be extinguished by showing a site has major public works or a previous grant of tenure. Native title can only be claimed by a corporation of traditional owners. It can be exclusive or non-exclusive access, which confers particular rights to camp on an area, visit and protect important places, hunt, fish and gather food and bush medicine. Native title can also be resolved through negotiation of a legally binding agreement, such as an Indigenous Land Use Agreement. One Nation Senator Pauline Hanson insisted that what was happening in Redlands is 'only the tip of the iceberg'. 'If we get the Voice to Parliament this will expand tremendously' she told Daily Mail Australia on Thursday. In the fuller documentation of the Uluru Statement from the Heart, which came out of a 2017 convention native title features prominently in discussions. A 'road map' in the final document, which contains the Statement, shows native title will become part of the body overseeing a treaty between First Nations and Australian governments. 'The role of the National Native Title Tribunal should be subsumed by the Makarrata Commission,' it reads. Senator Hanson claimed that the South Queensland Native Title Services is being funded to the tune of $71million by the Albanese government to make the claims on the Redlands region. Meanwhile a federal fund to aid councils in responding to native title claims had been abolished by the Albanese government, she said, making it a very one-sided affair. 'There is no federal government funding for the respondents to fight these claims,' Senator Hanson said. 'Local councils can’t afford it. I think it is unfair, I think it is unjust.' Senator Hanson said she would be moving a motion to re-establish the fund and she wanted a sunset clause that set a deadline to when native title claims can be made. Ms Hanson claimed native title already covers 50% of Australia and another 10% is under determination. 'I saw the map of Queensland,' Senator Hanson said. 'They have handed the land back land around Hervey Bay, Fraser Island. Stradbroke Island. 'There’s claims put across right from Brisbane and the Gold Coast to Toowoomba and beyond Warwick. It also goes down to the border. 'It is also dotted through round Bundaberg, Maryborough right up through Emerald and right up to Mt Isa.' A 2019 report by the Native Title Tribunal said that 40% of the continent had been claimed. Senator Hanson said that she is investigating the extent of Native Title claims on the whole of Australia and the funding being provided to allow it. 'They'll be looking for reparations, that is what this is about' she said. 'They actually have this land handed back and it can't mean much to them because they sell it for a profit. 'Just handing sites back to a handful of Aboriginals and denying the major population of Australia the enjoyment of these areas is wrong.'
Are these people brainless. https://apple.news/AwfCkgtjjQ3-UcOVO0Cud3w The sooner we rid of these communist deadbeats the better!
Did you read he bit that distinguishes “Native Title” from “Land Rights”. Native title does NOT infer exclusive use. Not to mention the claim was made in 2017 and the sky hasn’t fallen in 6 years later... Look at the map posted by someone earlier - only the dark green is exclusive Native title - some tiny patches up near the gulf is the Qld ‘.contribution’. Hanson is a liar and thief; just ask any of her ex- members.
You should get out more. One of my mates in Victoria has a son in the police in the NT. The Local aboriginals are now denying the police entry to "their Land" on public roads! If you ever drive up there, and find an Aboriginal lying on the road, if you stop it will the last we see of you, you'll be dragged from the car and beaten by his mate waiting in the bush for you to stop, and your car will be driven off and burn't. Tiny patches??Redlands shire is a tiny patch I suppose? The impact of all this, to the public purse is astronomical. Instead of spending the taxpayers money on more effective sustainable things, millions are being squandered in the courts over this. The areas on Straddie and Moreton now under native rule, once kept by the Qld parks and wildlife are now completely neglected, nothing important, like fire trails etc, so when it goes up you'll have the mother of all smoking ceremonies for all to see, and I'll bet there will be screams for more funding then. While I don't vote for Hanson, I'll give her her dues, that she has the balls to call out these left wing tossers and their wicked ways. In your long catalogue of political liars I hope you include the communists Albasleazy and Penny Wrong, and Krudd, and Whitlam and Keeatung, Pala chook. This is Australia ....... for all Australians, not one peoples held on high, because of the colour of their skin. Your allowed to have your opinion of course, as that price was paid by a generation 80 years ago, but by stealth your rights are being robbed, and it will come on you like a shadow, and then the realization might hit you.
Wha What I don't understand is that Kerrari has no thought for future Generations including her own Children and grandchildren and the division the YES vote will bring about ? And how much will those in REAL need will receive be it financial or living standard aid? The entire vote has been hijacked by the left and anyone who votes NO will be branded a racist!
Another one filled with HATE. Living off the gravy train Wonder when SHE went bush and gave a helping hand? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Let's stick to the Redlands issue first, hey? First up here's how Native Title works: https://www.qld.gov.au/firstnations/environment-land-use-native-title/what-it-means-for-queensland#:~:text=Aboriginal peoples and Torres Strait,known as 'native title'. Second: here's how much of the Redlands claim that is for EXCLUSIVE use - the little red, blue and white lines (noted by the yellow boxes) you can barely see: Image Unavailable, Please Login
Let's stick to the Redlands issue first, hey? First up here's how Native Title works: https://www.qld.gov.au/firstnations/environment-land-use-native-title/what-it-means-for-queensland#:~:text=Aboriginal peoples and Torres Strait,known as 'native title'. Second: here's how much of the Redlands claim that is for EXCLUSIVE use - the little red, blue and white lines (noted by the yellow boxes) you can barely see: View attachment 3580480
This is QLD gov summary but applies everywhere. Only 'exclusive Native Title' (the dark green on the map previously posted) gives Aboriginal people 'control' of the land. https://www.qld.gov.au/firstnations/environment-land-use-native-title/what-it-means-for-queensland#:~:text=Aboriginal%20peoples%20and%20Torres%20Strait,known%20as%20'native%20title'.
