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Confused - 308 16" Wheels?

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  1. Wayne 962

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    Here's an ad:

    "Exceptional condition Ferrari wheels with nearly new Michelin Tires. The tires alone were $220 each plus mounting and balancing. That's over $900 just for the tires. Center caps are included as well. Tires are Michelin, 220/55 390"

    Where there multiple types of 16" wheels? These appear to be 390mm wheels, which are not the same as the 16" ones? I'm a little confused...

    Anyone know?

    -Wayne
     
  2. Dom

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    These are metric rims. They are not quite 16" rims. I think they are about 15" in diameter.

    Someone probably bought a set of real 16" rims and is trying to sell these to an unsuspecting buyer.


    BTW, the metric tires ARE very expensive.

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  3. Wayne 962

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    Thanks - that's what I thought. I'm probably going to be putting these on a car that I will be selling, so not much of a problem there...

    Thanks!

    -Wayne
     
  4. enjoythemusic

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    i have a full set of metric with rubber for sale... cheap!!!!

    Please, for G-d sake get them out of my garage!!!!!!
     
  5. Wayne 962

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    Do these look just like the 16" wheels? They appear to be in the photo. The story is, my 308 has 16" wheels - looks like I'm going to be picking up a FG car in the near future, but it only has the 14s. I think that the larger wheels really make the car, so I'm looking for a set to place on the car when I resell it.

    -Wayne
     
  6. f355spider

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    They look similar, just as 14" wheels resemble the 16"..as far as the five star shape....but there are differences among all of them. The metric is "in between"....it still doesn't look as nice as the true 16" QV wheels.
     
  7. Spasso

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    390 mm wheels = 15.30"
     
  8. Auraraptor

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    Personally, I suggest staying away from the Metrics due to tire pricing, quality, and availablity issues.
     
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    Won't hanging the metrics on the car effect resale price?

    Don't most knowledgeable F Car folks know these are like the wicked stepchild of wheels for this car?

    I mean, I drive a 246 Dino, and I've followed some threads here where you 308 guys yak about these bastard size metric wheels and how difficult and expensive they are to get rubber for, etc.

    So, the guy on ebay or FerrariAds.com who is selling the metric ones is just trying to dump his problem in someone elses lap.
     
  10. enjoythemusic

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    Hell, i can't even nearly GIVE my metric rims with rubber away! i may just throw them out or use them as lawn decoration for my future multi-car LARGE garage.
     
  11. Wayne 962

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    I'll take them! [email protected]

    As for people knowing this - I doubt so. I have researched these cars up and down, and just found out about this from this post.

    I need a set to put on a car I'm going to be selling - the 14"s just don't look right to me, since I have the 16s on my '79...

    -Wayne
     
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    Stack 'em up. I must have 4 or 5 sets of wheel/tire combinations in various garage locations that I can't give away or sell.

    Maybe some 16" Porsche wheels/tires, nasty curb rash,two hold air. How about a set of red line 14" on steel wheels from a TR6 (bout 25 yrs old) maybe some 13's from a Honda Civic, or 15" snows on Borbet wheels for a BMW? I think I also have a set of xwx radials on 14 x 6.5 Cromadorra's too.
     
  13. Auraraptor

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    Dave, too cool! (in an odd way) I want to have assorted wheels eventually. I have a set of 16s off of a E38 BMW, 1 baddly scratched 19 off of a E65, 2 fronts for an E38 in AC Schnitzer Type III (19 inch front) (trying to get a rear set for a good price) 15 inchers off of a E24 633 that I thought were just cool too keep off of my old 633, and 3 360 Modena fronts (still looking for that last front to have a set....)
     
  14. BigTex

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    The 14" didn't look bad in '76 -'77!!

    It's all what you're used to. I have 14" to maintain stock apperance, but 16" to run hard on modern tires!

    Goodyear helps me with 14" rubber, (whispering...) They make repro Blue Streak slicks you know....Guess what size?????
     
  15. BigTex

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    To answer your original question Wayne, you are correct there is no such thing as a 16" OEM 308 wheel.

    The later 328 wheel can be MADE to fit, but it isn't quite the same casting.

    Here's another trivia fact..remember that THREE companies supplied the OEMs 14", Chromodora, Champinolo, and Speedline... all three had similar but distinct various differences
     
  16. f355spider

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    ???!!!!!
     
  17. BigTex

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    Well, there's not!! lol

    Ferrari UK keeps hawking the 328 OEMs, which are not the same casting at all. That's why they don't fit over the bearing dust cover!!!!!

    The 308 wheels are "squiggly" where they go around the bolts, with very rounded edges to the casting, While the later wheels have sharper corners and straight lines in this area!

    Don't get me started, I'm sanding a set now....by hand!

    If you look up "low tech" in the dictionary, that's MY pic in there!
     
  18. Auraraptor

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    Wa???
     
  19. BigTex

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    Speedy 308:

    "It bolts on...or it don't!" lol
     
  20. BigTex

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    That was his question...IIRC.
     
  21. BigTex

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    Nasty curb rash = Wheels America! HTH

    Wayne actually was referring to the 390s, which are about 15.5 inches.

    They make great trotline weights...let's have some fried catfish!!!
     
  22. Spasso

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    Last I knew the 308 QV's used 16" wheels. They are found for sale on Ebay often for around 2500.00, in need of refinishing. They bolt directly onto early 308's with no modifications.

    I thought at one time Ferrari UK had them in stock but for a substantially higher price than the 328 wheels.
     
  23. Spasso

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    I know this because I was trying to find out why a 15" tire couldn't be 'stretched' onto a wheel that was only 3/10's of an inch bigger. The answer? Different bead design.
     
  24. BigTex

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    A tire bead is not very stretchy at ALL! LOL

    I thought about that last night, and you are correct I think, the 308QV was the first appearance of 16", so I WAS WRONG!

    But they are RARE as you mention.....

    (back to sanding......swigs Corona)
     
  25. shenbec

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    Actually my 1980 Euro 308 (carbed) came from the factory with 16" rims. The windshield sticker also states 16" Pirelli P7 tires.
     

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