Mark Webber will get his first ride in a BMW this season. I just read it on www.f1live.com Yes Gene did suck!
Agreed, F1 is not even worth watching from here on, it is a race for third or forth, MS had it in the bag 2 races ago. I say let Rubens win the rest since there is no need for MS to even get back in the car this season. I'd rather have a dog fight and come down to the wire, suspension of disbelief, anything. Congrats Ferrari for winning so cleanly that your fans don't even need to show up anymore. The races are as predictable as a Tom Clancy or Stephen King novel.
Hey, how about this? Instead of giving his trophies to Ross, why not walk up and down pit lane and hand a trophy to Frank Williams, Ron Dennis, Paul Gasgoyne, Flavio Briattore, Eddie Jordon, Paul Stoddart, Peter Sauber, David Richards, and Tony Purnell, thanking them for being less than competitive. Would that have your panache? Then he would have enough left over to hand trophies to Kimi, Juan Pablo, Jarno, Alonzo, Coultard, Button, etc,. etc,. Thanking each and everyone of them, with real feelings, how much he appreciates their continuing contribution of mediocrity to his great success. Hell, then he could start handing trophies to the aerodynamicists of the other teams, then to all the engine companies that have failed to beat him. Remember, he has A LOT of throphies to hand out. He might even have enough to give a few to some less than knowlegeble F1 fans. Sheesh........ Winning just doesn't seem to be enough does it? Now he must win with Panache"!!!! If he wins his 7th WDC, does that add any panache to his account? Obviously, the first 6 didn't make much of an impression.
ROFLMAO!!! Oh man it would be a sight to see, MS walking around with trophies in a non-descript brown paper bag all casual. He is just the SOB to do it too, if anyone. Like that SNL skit after the Oscars with Peter Jackson on the Weekend Update with a Macy's bag overflowing with little gold statues.
LOL Brawn isn't the one that provides 20+ second leads on demand like Michael does! Perhaps Bernie can decide to add 300 lbs of ballast to Michael's car or force him to start from the back at every race. I am a huge Schui fan, but it does seem like Ferrari/Schu are men playing with boys. I was actually cheering a bit for Kimi this time, although he is really lacking in charisma for a possible future champion, such a zombie. I would love to see him start to really challenge Michael, and Kimi............come on man, lighten up! You're a young, rich, famous F1 driver, life is good!!!! I can't see Michael continuing too many seasons if it is always this easy, I mean what else does he have to prove?
You obviously failed to comprehend my remark. Let me try to explain this to you. When I mentioned he should give the trophy to Ross Brawn, I meant that all MS has to do is stay on track taking no chances (just tagging along in, without a doubt, the best car of the set) and listen to Ross telling him when to come in, and making him win the race. There is ZERO driving creativity, thus no panache. Just Ross and his calculator. I never mentioned he should give credit to the others for being lame. They should get bricks, if anything! It does piss me off because all we see on TV is #1 position, which is terribly boring. I don't care who ends up #1 ... I wanna see a driver fight for it. Look into MotoGP and you'll understand what I mean. Sorry if I don't idolize MS.
You do not understand that Formula 1 is a team sport! It takes a team to win an F1 race. It would be very hard to win a race without having a driver? Just like it would be hard to drive a car without tires. But apprently in your world drivers can do that too! How the HELL do you want Michael to fight for it. Michael led from the 15th lap of the 60 lap race. Michael led 75% of the race. How the hell do you want him to fight for number 1 if there is no one to fight! Do you want Michael to stop, let Kimi pass, and then FIGHT FOR IT! Ferrari can't catch a break can they. For two decades they did not win much, people criticized them. Then they finally deserve to win so they win and prove that they are the best formula 1 team ever created, and people still criticize them! Thank you Ferrari for not paying any attention to ignorant critics, the world certaily seems to have an over abundance of them. On to Germany and more Ferrari victories! Edit: PS: Please tell even one Scuderia Ferrari mechanic that they did not fight for the victory today and that michael did not fight for his victory today. I would like to hear the sound of hand on face that follows that. "Fight for it"... I did not know winning comes without hard work and toil!
I was suprised when I heard them say that Toyota had the biggest racing budget. They made it sound like it was hands down the biggest also.
Ferrari...TOO GOOD!!! the rest p!ss poor!! Kimi....zombie is too animated a word for this dull person, he must be a ton of laughs in the sack!! I sat up for MANY MANY years at ungodly hours to watch my TEAM do maybe 10 laps before they blew up or were so uncompetative that I prefered catching up on sleep than wasting my time watching the painful exercise of my beloved red machines being caned by the English garagisti with Ford/Porsche/Honda engines. Now we win and all the Johnny-come-latelys want to have fair play, let someone else win, we're being treated like fools and such comments ....sheesh, am I reading an English Fleet street rag or am I on the Fchat site where we should give a toss about the rest of the losers, I CERTAINLY don't!!! I dont go to football matches hoping there is going to be a close contest, I wanna see my team kick a*se and in F1 I am even more passionate. You guys haven't suffered enough to enjoy the good times, I don't think you have even seen the bad times. Oh, BTW Luca and JeanT deserve ALL the credit for building this team, MS just happens to be the lucky recipient of a well crafted team, otherwise why else is JT being touted as the next FIA president ??!! Luca is head of FIAT and will ensure Ferrari is always at least near the top of the pile.
Like Mark and the growing amount of disallusioned ex-F1 fans, I did not watch this race. Heck I did not even record it!. This has nothing against Ferrari constantly winning, this has everything against the lack of RACING currently involved. I am not surprised that RB HAD to take the wrong strategy so the MS God could remove RB from being a competitor. Everybody tests a lot at Silverstone and the best strategy for the most part is a 2 stopper ... that even enabled the incredibly slow Jaguar R5 up into the points for Webber (good drive mate). Until the F1 rule makers return racing on to the track then I'm not interested. MS following around the guys in front and then putting on a spurt of fast laps while they pit is about as exciting and challenging (for MS as well) as watching paint dry. This is NOT the Ferrari teams fault, they are playing the current format of the sport extremely well ... it just is not real motor racing anymore ... it is a circus. Thus concrats MS for another hollow victory. How that guy does not fall asleep behind the wheel of his Ferrari F1 car I do not know ... as a normal, intelligent person would be bored by now. Even Stirling Moss and most other drivers say you eventually wake up to find going round in circles boring and pointless ... I guess one has to wonder at the IQ of MS if he still find beating the current no talent drivers worth getting excited about. Forza Ferrari you are doing a very professional job ... maybe not a sporting job, but then I think in the revamp of the team you have forgotten the honour that exists in sport ... and MS has never shown it (again great driver but like us all flawed in a few areas ...). Pete's thinking the only thing that will make F1 interesting again is the resurgence of McLaren and hopefully some well thought out rule changes
So why were Mclaren on a 3 stop strategy? Why were the Williams on a 3 stop strategy? I wonder WHY since it is SOOOO OBVIOUS that a 2 Stopper is the best strategy. Add one more to the growing line of conspiracy theorists. The world is out to screw Rubens. Rubens POOR POOR Rubens... he only managed 3rd position today. Yes, Michael had another victory. OH my! Oh My! Ferrari has one more hollow victory. What are we going to do! Thank you Ferrari for not paying attention to the overabundant critics! Smart and inteligent racing seems to be a crime these days! On to Hockenheim and one more Ferrari Victory!
Because they have drivers in Kimi, JPM that can maintain the pace for as long as necessary. We all know that RB cannot, so RB choicing a 3 stopper is just taking him out of the equation ... for a win. Put Bruni in the 2nd Ferrari and he would almost be guaranteed third spot the car and TEAM is so superior ... The only person that can change this is RB ... but he is impotent against MS. Fair enough Yep almost guaranteed ... yawn. Pete ps: GO KIMI GO, push MS so we can see MS's brilliance in a on track battle
Yeah! So Rubens snatching 3rd in Magny Cours (French GP) by maintaining pace was not really true. Catching upto Kimi at the end today was not really true today either. Had there been no safety car today Rubens would have been in second... IN FRONT of your beloved Kimi. Had there been no Safety car today Michael would have beaten 2nd place Kimi, your beloved Kimi, or Rubens by over 40 seconds. OH! But how would you know... you did not even watch the race!!! On to Hockenheim and one more Ferrari Victory! PS: Go Kimi *cough* safety car *cough* Go!!!
Why should we penalize Ferrari for taking the same rules as everyone else and improving themselves. Like moretti said I too spent nights praying to the racing gods to help Ferrari in the dark days of the late 80s and early 90s. The days when the prancing horse was a back marker and Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger struggled to even finish. The team took the initiative to improve and look at what they have become today. If anyone heard the press conference after the race MS said something like this... "We got complacent last year and look at what happened." The team is afraid to lose and that why they push the envelope. Don't hate Ferrari because they aren't sitting their twiddling their thumbs. All the teams need to take notes from Ferrari and improve, some have most notably BAR who until last year were a nobody and this year they are consistently doing well. Years from now I can tell my future kids I saw the greatest driver make history on the television and at live at the tracks.
You guys never seem to understand what I am saying. I do not hate Ferrari for being successful, Forza Ferrari! ... it is just boring I hate the current F1 rules and format, because it does not promote REAL circuit racing IMO. If we had proper qualifying rule/format Ferrari would not have been able to play these games, nor would the other teams. Thus the faults lie with the FIA, not Ferrari. [EDIT]I am though not happy with Ferrari continuing to play team orders ... but it is their team and if the rules/format was better it would not matter[/EDIT] Pete's bored BTW: I also watched all the same races and prayed that Ferrari would win. Sweated the whole race long hoping the car would last ... while Ferrari were not successful, for some reason it was far more exciting to watch. I guess supporting the all winning team is no fun to me.
The point you fail to understand while you continue to dig your hole of foolishness is that having the best calculator in world doesn't win an F1 race. Do you honestly belive Ron Dennis, or Frank Williams, or David Richards are incapable of running a calculator? Come on...at least think this stuff through before you post. Why should Ferrari risk ANY kind of passing maneuver on the track when they can simply pass every contender when they pit? You may consider such a tactic as "boring", but what is the ultimate goal of this entire procedure of F1 racing? It is to WIN!!! The FIA formulated the rules that all the teams contest the champoinship under. Every other team on the grid has the same rule book. Why don't the other teams just figure it out? Do you honestly believe Ron Dennis would be doing anything differently than Ferrari if the shoe was on the other foot? Of course not. Ferrari is better. Get over it. They earned the right to kick the crap out of every other team on the grid. I get sick and tired of whiners disparaging the current F1 because it is boring. Well, why don't you go do something else? Go wash your car, play with your kids. Take the wife out for a nice breakfast at IHOP. Don't sit there on your ass and complain because the current standards don't meet with your subjective opinion of good racing. Life is too short to waste your time watching something boring. I for one, would welcome the possibility that the current crop of Ferrari/Michael/F1 bashers simply dance over to the NASCAR/IRL forums, buy a bucket of KFC and leave the rest of the F1 world alone. Maybe the panache quotient is higher in NASCAR. By the way, idolizing Michael Schumacher has nothing to do with your position. It could just as easily be Rubens, or, if the positions were reversed it could be Kimi. If they were good enough to actually make Ross Brawn's, or Ron Dennis' calculations workable they would be winning races this season. It just so happens that none of the current crop of contenders has displayed the ability to lay down record lap speeds consistantly when called upon to do so. Go Figure.
F1 is not broken. The only thing in the Rules that sucks is this stupid points systems in which a driver that hhas won 10 races out of a possible 18 has yet not secured the world championship! What is broken are the other teams. It is the fault, if any, of teams such as Mclaren and Williams that plain and simply SUCK!!! The problem is not the FIA. The problem, if any are drivers like Montoya and Sato that do not deserve to be in F1! Actually in all reality there is no problem with F1, Ferrari and Michael Schumacher are simply the best driver and team ever in the history of F1. You cannot beat the best ever. They are just too good.
Interestingly enough Jean Todt was interviewed before the season began, and made a comment suggesting that the continued runaway dominance of Ferrari and its drivers may turn out to not be the best thing for the sport. He understands that people may eventually get bored of the repetition. I'm a big Ferrari fan and I think they have done an incredible job to get here, but I understand Todt's point.
well if Webber goes to Williams JT may not have to worry.... the sad part is my loyalties will be divided as I want Ferrari to win (not MS or RB) but would be nice to see Webber get a few
I just enjoy how much everyone on this board was ready to nail the coffin shut this season when the F2004 was introduced. When i took a look at it i thought that it could just dominate the season. YES Ferrari is kicking butt this year and making all of the others look like rank amatures out there.. Is it Ferraris fault?? HELL NO!!!!!! Lets look at some of the facts. Rule changes that try and level the playing field. I.E. the 1 engine rule.. If that was meant to slow down the Ferrari's it was a bad call as Ferrari had no race engine failures since the USGP in 2001!! 1 lap qualifing. That rule caught Ferrari with there pants down last year as the F2003-GA was geared to running for long stints. The team could not move the ballast forward enough to make the car work on a lighter fuel load. Enter the F2004, Ferrari learned from there mistakes. Ferrari loses one of there top Aero experts to Williams. Looking at the results of the FW-26 this year i would have to say no big loss there. Some claim Ferrari has an advantage with the Bridgestone tires. I seriously doubt this one as it you look at the other bridgestone runners they cannot keep there cars from sliding all over the place. I think if Ferrari were to be running on Michelins this season they would be even further ahead of the pack. If you take a look at what is going on behind the Ferrari's you will see a lot of exciting racing. And one thing to think about how quickly we forget i will leave you with 2 pictures from the USGP where BAR was giving Micheal fits durring the race.
