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"Babying" the Ferrari causes more harm than good?

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  1. rascalif

    rascalif Karting

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    I tend to drive my Mondial very carefully, shifting as early as possible (3-3.5k RPM) and making sure I don't go anywhere near the yellow zone on the tach. However a friend of mine told me that this actually harms the engine by causing deposits to build up in the injectors, as well as sending unburned fuel to the catalytic converter. If so this may explain why the Slow Down light goes on, maybe once every other week. He told me that as a result of my driving habits, I need to use some injector cleaner additives and drive the hell out of the car to get any deposits out.

    Any opinions on this?
     
  2. Jdubbya

    Jdubbya The $10 Trillion Man
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    It's been said here before I know.....
    DRIVE IT LIKE IT'S STOLEN!!!

    Just my personal opinion, but these cars were designed to be driven so why not do it. Man, 3,500 is way too low to be shifting ALL the time. Mine seems to run, idle, drive, hell it does everything better after a nice spirited drive. I was a little timid with mine at first but the more I get to know it the the more I believe it WANTS to be driven hard!! Not to be rude, but if your afraid of breaking it, sell it.
     
  3. judge4re

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    Once it is warmed up, drive the snot out of it. The 365 always seems to idle better and run smoother if I don't shift until 5000 rpm. Makes a hell of a noise too.
     
  4. Miltonian

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    Does your friend know anything about Ferraris, or is he making this up to impress you?
     
  5. jimangle

    jimangle F1 Rookie

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    The only thing that you should baby, is the clutch. Don't ride it, get it rolling and get off of it. Other than that, you should drive it like it should be driven. Why own a ferrari if you're not going to use it for what it was intended for? These cars can handle it. So enjoy. Also the engine will not explode or need a rebuild at 50k miles.
     
  6. Shamile

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    Dear Ferraristi,


    Ferraris need to be shifted at high revs. They just seem to perform better that way. Shift a Porsche at 2500....not a Ferrari. This is not bravado, but I honestly did find they don't like to be shifted at or run at low RPM. Before my TR, my 308 was only happy at 4000 or higher and run at no lower than 3000 in any gear.
     
  7. kenyon

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    Once warm a Ferrari can be driven hard. I have never had any problems with my 348 spider like some people have. The more you drive them the better they are...
     
  8. F456 V12

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    Dude:

    MY 456 is now nine years old and while I don't tack it, this car has never, never broken down and left me on the highway looking for a tow or ride. I hit the rev limiter 7+K Revs just about every time I go from 1st to 2nd. Sometimes limit out in 2nd gear which is ~80+ MPH.

    grip it, stick it and rip it.

    MB
     
  9. MY355

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    8500-8700 rpm shifts are no stranger to MY355 F-car.
    48000 miles and NO PROBLEMS. :)
     
  10. 911Fan

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    I only do that while I'm waiting for the engine oil to warm up and it drives me nuts! I don't see how you're having much fun if you're driving your Ferrari this way all the time.

    I agree with the others -- once the oil has reached operating temp, use the entire permitted RPM range. That's what it's for! You're not going to hurt it and you'll certainly have a lot more fun.
     
  11. rascalif

    rascalif Karting

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    I have seen the error of my ways!

    Thanks for the advice. First thing tomorrow I'm going to turn the beast loose!
     
  12. ryalex

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    It's just like kids: if you baby it, then it won't behave properly when the other Ferraris are around. It will demand more attention. You'll have to buy it more stuff. It will make you broke in the long run, and it won't be worth anything when it gets older.
     
  13. 911Fan

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    That's better! Have you checked the oil level lately? Make sure you wait for the oil temp to reach the proper level -- not just the water temp -- before you loosen the beast. We wouldn't want the beast to seize up on you...
     
  14. Jdubbya

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    RIGHT ON!!! Listen to that baby scream once it gets above 5K. Mine doesn't even settle down and drive right until about 90mph.
     
  15. Ricambi America

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    All the great music occurs NORTH of 4500 rpm.

    -Daniel
     
  16. steve f

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    once its warm thrash the balls of it thats what its made for just be easy with the clutch unless you have loads of money
     
  17. DGS

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    Absolutely! If there's anything better than the smell of napalm in the morning ;) , it's the sound of an Italian lump at redline in the cool still air of the dawn.

    Remember the opening scenes of The Gumball Rally, with that Daytona reverberating through the NYC echo chamber? Crank up the volume!

    Even with only 8 cyls, a Ferrari is not just a pretty face. ;)
     
  18. Jdubbya

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    Did you do it? Did you do it? Huh Huh Huh???
     
  19. Sophia

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    Yep, mine is the same. I get it out in fair weather every month of the year...mainly because I'm in the preservationist mode with this car now. I drive off as soon as it will idle and mellow at that until all things are thermally stabilized. I visuallize the stresses on everything during the warm-up period, hot piston crowns and cold skirts/liners, hot valve heads with cold stems and guides. Cold head studs and head gaskets with hot exhaust gases on only one side of the cyl. head. Want to #@%$-up your engine...do it while these items are at the peak of their temperature differentials.

    Let everything get to run temp (and stable at that), and things are elastic, more forgiving and less prone to wear or breakage...open-er up! Clean out those fuel delivery passages and combustion chambers. While you're at it, cycle all those electrical goodies and accessories to make 'em happy;)
     
  20. maranelloman

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    4 words: your friend is right
     
  21. Vyrus

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    As is true for any car, carbon deposits do build up in the combustion chamber and exhaust. While these deposits do cause compression to appear higher than reality, yet only cause very, very slight acceleration differences, if any. Driving your car into its high-RPM range will clear these deposits, therefore some people recommend that once in a while it is good to push your car. The truth however, is that these cause no harm and can always be cleared. It is always better to baby a car, but heck, you're driving a Ferrari - the car just begs to be driven hard. :)
    -Cyrus
     
  22. yasir

    yasir Formula Junior

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    Yes you can shift a Porsche at high RPM too & no it won't catch fire & unlike a Ferrari you don't have to carry emergency contact #'s either.
    Sorry fellas but i hate when people look down on other makes,a Ferrari is not a better sports car then a Porsche and vice a versa.I also don't mean to start a flame thread here but i think we have discussed this,my car better then yours,countless times so no point in discussing that again.
    Yasir
     
  23. Shamile

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    Dear Ferraristi,

    My car is better than yours...nah..nah...nah...nah ! :)

    Actually, I just make fun of that great truck manufacturer....you know Porsche.

    Seriously though, I am and have been a member of the Porsche club for the last 15 years. I've owned many Porsches...yes they are better built...but not as exciting as Ferrari
     
  24. 4i2fly

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    I would rebuild the engine and break it in properly, and drive the hell out of it afterwards, rev it up! These cars are designed to be reved up. They don't even start moving until you get close to the redline.
     
  25. Jdubbya

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    Very well said!!!
     

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