German Formula 1 Grand Prix Thread

Well, the first Friday Practise Session is underway!

It's a hot 29 degrees Celcius at Hockenheim.

 

The session has been red flagged at 10:41 local time in order to clear debris from Timo Glock's Jordan, which lost its front wing over kerbing.

The session will restart at 11:51 local time.

 

Results from Friday Free Practise Session 1.

P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps Laps
1. 35 DAVIDSON BAR Honda M 1'15"756 217.361 Km/h 32
2. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'15"864 + 0'00"108 11
3. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'16"318 + 0'00"562 8
4. 38 ZONTA Toyota M 1'16"340 + 0'00"584 36
5. 11 FISICHELLA Sauber Petronas B 1'16"451 + 0'00"695 11
6. 17 PANIS Toyota M 1'16"484 + 0'00"728 20
7. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'16"493 + 0'00"737 16
8. 9 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'16"544 + 0'00"788 12
9. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'16"795 + 0'01"039 14
10. 04 PIZZONIA Williams BMW M 1'16"845 + 0'01"089 14
11. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'16"916 + 0'01"160 8
12. 16 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'17"111 + 0'01"355 21
13. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'17"142 + 0'01"386 11
14. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas B 1'17"361 + 0'01"605 18
15. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'17"487 + 0'01"731 14
16. 10 SATO BAR Honda M 1'17"526 + 0'01"770 14
17. 37 WIRDHEIM Jaguar Cosworth M 1'17"714 + 0'01"958 20
18. 18 HEIDFELD Jordan Ford B 1'18"257 + 0'02"501 15
19. 39 GLOCK Jordan Ford B 1'18"768 + 0'03"012 17
20. 15 KLIEN Jaguar Cosworth M 1'18"810 + 0'03"054 9
21. 20 BRUNI Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"088 + 0'03"332 17
22. 40 LEINDERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"270 + 0'03"514 14
23. 21 BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"959 + 0'04"203 13
24. 19 PANTANO Jordan Ford B 1'20"029 + 0'04"273 17

 

Can't help but note; Compared to rest of field, Davidson & Zonta turned a lot of laps.

 

Results from Friday Free Practise Session 2

P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps Laps
1. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'15"001 219.549 Km/h 27
2. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'15"045 + 0'00"044 18
3. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'15"167 + 0'00"166 25
4. 9 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'15"379 + 0'00"378 23
5. 04 PIZZONIA Williams BMW M 1'15"470 + 0'00"469 25
6. 35 DAVIDSON BAR Honda M 1'15"576 + 0'00"575 33
7. 10 SATO BAR Honda M 1'15"657 + 0'00"656 21
8. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'15"677 + 0'00"676 30
9. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'15"738 + 0'00"737 19
10. 38 ZONTA Toyota M 1'16"200 + 0'01"199 38
11. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'16"265 + 0'01"264 18
12. 37 WIRDHEIM Jaguar Cosworth M 1'16"342 + 0'01"341 28
13. 14 WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth M 1'16"514 + 0'01"513 27
14. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'16"660 + 0'01"659 32
15. 15 KLIEN Jaguar Cosworth M 1'16"854 + 0'01"853 31
16. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas B 1'16"865 + 0'01"864 30
17. 11 FISICHELLA Sauber Petronas B 1'17"026 + 0'02"025 26
18. 16 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'17"300 + 0'02"299 25
19. 17 PANIS Toyota M 1'17"419 + 0'02"418 23
20. 39 GLOCK Jordan Ford B 1'17"724 + 0'02"723 25
21. 19 PANTANO Jordan Ford B 1'17"869 + 0'02"868 24
22. 21 BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth B 1'18"098 + 0'03"097 21
23. 40 LEINDERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'18"224 + 0'03"223 17
24. 18 HEIDFELD Jordan Ford B 1'18"243 + 0'03"242 23
25. 20 BRUNI Minardi Cosworth B 1'18"309 + 0'03"308 25

 

Well that is not unusual. The third test drivers do many more laps on Friday because they do not need to conserve their engines for Saturday and Sunday. This provides teams like BAR more data to work with.

 

True. Davidson however continues to amaze me. The guy is consistently fast.

 

Oh yes! BAR would have been much better off this season if Davidson was in the race seat instead of Takuma Sato.

 

Sato was faster than Davidson when they both did F3 for Carlin. Being fast on Friday doesn´t tell a whole lot.

 

Yes, but having a sponsor that has to buy an F1 racing seat for you also says a whole lot.

 

A sponsor doesn´t buy you laptimes.

 

Pole Position - Kimi Raikkonen
Winner - Michael Schumacher

 

Exactly, and therefore you can see how much faster Davidson is compared to Sato. Sato is a marketing gimick for Honda. Money can buy you a racing seat but it cannot buy you driver performance.

 

I'd like to see how Davidson does under real racing conditions. Hopefully we'll get a chance to see that next year. Potentially in the Sauber seat Fisico will leave behind when he transfers to ???

 

It would certainly be good to have Dividson and Timo Glock in racing seats next year. It is sad to see real racing talent wasted because seats are being bought by big sponsors to promote "their guy".

 

I'll tell you again: when they were teammates at Carlin Motorsport in British F3, Sato was easily quicker than Davidson.

The Friday-times are really incomparable, for they are running under different circumstances with different tasks.

Sato has proven again and again that he has the speed and the skill to succeed in F1. Besides, there is really no evidence that he is to blame for the broken Honda-engines. Sure, it tempting to assume a connection, but Sato doesn't change his style over the course of a season, yet the engine does not break all the time. So there actually are engine that are good enough to bring Sato's car home, so the engines that aren't are simply inferior engines.

Be that as it may, you are obviously too blinded by your dislike of Sato to see the facts. Your loss though.

 

And as coincidence would have it, today it was Button who suffered an enginefailure, and has to start 10 places from down whatever gridposition he takes in qualifying as a consequence.

On a side nota:

Christijan Albers will be testing a Jordan at Silverstone on september 15th

 

you are exactly right imperial, now comes your job - find a way to let davidson run the BAR in the race with no fuel the entire time!!!! go for it, I know you can do it

 

All the mockery aside I have been impressed by Davidson's constantly fast times. Sure he can blow the engine, use less fuel and new tires, but the guy is a rookie, who doesn't know the car as well and knows none of the F1 tracks and still goes fast every Friday. And the regular drivers probably don't have full fuel loads either.

I'm really anxious to see this guy under equal conditions.

 

imperial is just jealous of sato's cojones grande - and we all know your predictable posts stating your opinion after you've repeated it 90 times, the poor lil' horsie is dead!!!!

as to the German GP, poor DC is fading away from his team mate into oblivion....

 

Did that surprise you? DC is 2nd class. Kimi is dream stuff. If DC gets lucky he can nail the Jag seat for 05.

 

No it didnt but i feel sorry for the old excuse maker.

i bet JPM breathed a sigh of relief when the "new" McC was slightly quicker.....Adrian must've gone ahead and switched teams in his commitment

 

Ok, agreed on both. Actually I like DC and wish his mother really would have been right one of these years...


We all said how stupid of JPM to switch to Mc Laren and sign the contract so early and watch them blow up, but in the end he might be the one laughing: It looks as if he is joining the team just as their cars make a comeback and as Williams is falling apart (at least temporarily). I bet his clever girlfriend is behind all this...

 

Well we all so the video of Montoya trying to assault the camera man. If his girlfriend was not there to stop Montoya, he would have been in big trouble.

I actaully feel sorry for Mclaren. Montoya will probably destroy their come back. Kimi will not be able to put up with Montoya's stupid behaviour and the team will stop functioning well. Montoya is probably going to slam into Kimi at the start of most races next year.

 

I agree.