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Crashed my 550, body shop referrals

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  1. speedball

    speedball Formula Junior

    Mar 29, 2004
    268
    Pasadena Area
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    Scot Anderson
    I was in Hemet last night (80 miles east of Los Angeles). On my way home, I choose a small deserted road out in the countryside to have a little late night fun. It was dark and please spare me the grief on this forum about driving too fast on a road I wasn't familiar with .... I rounded a slight curve to discover three concrete barriers placed across the roadway. Had only about 300 feet advance notice ..... and needless to say .... this wasn't enough. What surprises me is there were no warning signs whatsoever (I went back and redrove this stretch just to double check). No road ends in "X amount of feet" signs, no reflective road closed signs (not even on the barrier) .... no advance warning whatsoever ...... Yes, I was doing way over the posted speed limit (100 -120 mph) but you'd think they would give motorist some sort of advance notice that you're approaching an Artificial dead end on a road that actually continues on the other side of the barrier. There was no reason for these being there.... no construction zone, the road surface was fine on both sides of the barrier, etc. The barrier was placed on the roadway a few hundred feet before it merges in a Y pattern onto the main road. Had the barriers not been there I would have easily just continued onto the main road without incident .... but unfortunately my options weren't so pleasant. It was either go head on into the concrete barriers thus totaling the car, risk an abrupt 180 and maybe spin into the barrier anyway, or turn slightly to the right of the barrier for a little off roading over a two foot dirt berm which unfortunately dropped a few feet more on the otherside which put me onto the shoulder of the main road I would've mearged onto if this wasn't blocked. The car was basiacally OK after this and I drove it home with no issues. I've never had to make a "panic" stop like this before, and I must say that in a "pinch" I was a bit disappointed with the Maranello's stopping power. However, the brakes were cold so this probably led to the less than desired stopping power. Didn't lock the brakes or skid during all of this .... actually it was a very controlled stop with a last second turn to the right aiming for the path of least resistance to avoid the barriers. When I hit the dirt berm I was doing probably going about 25 mph. The car took the berm OK ... it was that 45 degree drop off the back side that did in my front spoiler/bumper and also caught a piece of the rear bumper as I came out of it. The rest of the car looks fine givene the situation and what might have happened ... it appears to drive and handle as before but something strange did happen. The front hood is perfect but seems to of slid forward about 3/8 of an inch. You can see this in the gap betweeen the windshield/door post area and the hood placement in this area (you can se this in the pictures below) ..... it seems to of moved forward as if the hinge bolts slipped forward in their adjustment slots .... and because it moved forward slightly I'm now unable to open the hood because it's jammed in the release latch. I also noticed the right front fender underwent a little stress ... moved in slightly here and out slightly there... it's not very noticable but I gave everything a very close looking over today. There's also a slight tear in the front underbody panel but no other visable underside damage. Until I noticed the fender issue.... though about just repairing/replacing the bumpers myself .... but it's probably an insurance deal at this point. All and all, the car saw very little damage for what I put it through.

    Any recommendations on good Ferrari body shops in the LA area? Anyone know what front and rear bumper costs?

    Just to bring everything into prespective ..... I love driving my Maranello in all modes, fast, very fast, slow and even at times, stupid. I doubt this will change my driving habits too much ... after all .... why else would anyone want to own a Ferrari? The only bummer will be missing my car while it's being repaired.

    I'll try to post some pictures.
     
  2. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Aug 6, 2003
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    Yeouch. Sorry to hear about your car :(.

    Any lawsuit potential on those blocks, against the municipality or DOT for not having proper warning/markings on the construction area?


    Sorry to hear about your enter key too ;)... that is one big block o' text! I apologize, this might not be a time to tease.
     
  3. Kds

    Kds F1 World Champ

    You may want to blackout your license plate in the photo.....or maybe one of the mods will do it for you.
     
  4. Chiaro_Slag

    Chiaro_Slag F1 Veteran

    Oct 31, 2003
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    Sorry about the damage. :(

    Would like to see pics of the "roadblock." That sounds wild - I have never seen anything like that. Must have scrared the crap out of you to see those appear at 120 mph!
     
  5. speedball

    speedball Formula Junior

    Mar 29, 2004
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    Scot Anderson
    Thanks for the comments.......

    Bottom line .... this was my fault ... too fast under the circumstances .... but you are correct ... there absolutely should have been warning signs posted, or at the very least a big shiney reflective "Road Closed" sign on the barrier that would've given me enough advance notice to avoid this all together. I may go back out there at some point to take some pictures of the barriers and lack of signage. If so, I'll post some pictures. No one was hurt ... except for my beloved Ferrari.

    I'm really not too bummed by this ..... it was inevitable at some point because driving my Ferrari makes me feel like a teenager again. If anything, my biggests concern is an insurance claim (first one ever in 35 years of driving) and of course the possibility of a carfax entry against the car. But as you can see from the pictures.... there really wasn't much damage so I'm sure I can explain this away when and if I sell the car.

    I got out the car last night expecting to see a lot worse damage.
     
  6. Kevallino

    Kevallino Formula 3

    Feb 10, 2004
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    Wow - sorry to hear about that. We just got back from returning from Del Mar the back way in the Boxster and came through Hemet. I'm really glad I didn't end up on that road as well as we did sort of go a different way than usual.

    You're right, it doesn't look too bad given your story above.

    I just had a tiny thing done at Premier Motorsports in Culver City but would certainly recommend them based on my experience.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  7. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    I'm pretty sure that that bumper can be repaired and repainted like new. There are fiberglass guys around that can do it for a fraction of what new bumpers would cost. If you ask around in the So. CA section someone will know.

    Jeez I know what a buzz it is going fast in these cars. I had to catch myself, a couple of times this weekend. I know you said you don't want a lecture but it's a wake up call and a lesson for us all. Next time you might not be so lucky.

    Thanks for letting us know. Hope it all works out for you.
     
  8. sparetireless

    sparetireless Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
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    Try Bell/Strauss Autobody in Cost Mesa, they do only Ferrari and Mercedes. Ask for Ralph Bell. My guess is $18k, if its only body work, I am surprised there was no underside/suspension/rim damage. Put it up on the rack and you can probably round up another $10k. (I hope I am wrong) Sorry to be so pessimisitic but the cars cost big time if you bend them.
     
  9. ferrarifixer

    ferrarifixer F1 Veteran
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    Jul 22, 2003
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    all the bumper damage is peanuts to fix. Don't sweat it, but the panel shifting is a bigger worry.....needs careful inspection, maybe bent the whole front overhang up a bit....eugh
     
  10. riverflyer

    riverflyer F1 Rookie

    Nov 26, 2003
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    Scot, I am very sorry to see that. You may want to add the Ferodo 2500 pads during your repairs. They really improve the stopping on these cars. I am very sorry to see your damage. It does seem if you are traveling on state or county roads and they have no signage, that there is exposure there. If you left no tracks showing your speed you might want to see if the state will help pay as I am sure they are legallly bound to have signs warning of the barriers. Either way, I wish your car a speedy and not too expensive recovery, John
     
  11. TCM

    TCM Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2003
    552
    Tyngsborough, MA
    Wow... that was a nightmare story. I am glad to see you are ok. From the above posting, I was worried I was going to see a totaled 550. The damage to the front airdam is very minimal and can be repaired easily. I would doubt that impact would have shifted anything on the frame or car as the airdam would have been in much worse condition since it abosrbs a lot of the impact. I woudl also definately look into the no raod signs to try and fight the surcharge from the insurance. There should have been a sign either way, and remember that you have a Ferrari with Brembo brakes. What if a truck had been coming around that turn doing about 50mph... he would have hit as well. I would definately look into that. Good luck and please keep us updated with what happens.
     
  12. speedball

    speedball Formula Junior

    Mar 29, 2004
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    Scot Anderson
    If you look at the picture showing the hood, headlight and bumper .... you'll see the hood moved forward slightly about 3/8" but it's still correctly aligned side to side. The bumper doesn't appear to have pushed up or changed position and I agree with what others have said about the overall damage appearing to be very limited. Door gaps/fit all look great as does everything else. It's possible there was some slight movement in the frame or maybe with the forward support members holding the bumper in place but what with the overall damge I doubt anything serious happened. I have a two post lift here at my house. I was all set to remove the bumpers yesterday, giving access to the hood release and doing a very detailed inspection..... that is until I saw the slight deformation to the right fender (almost un-noticeable), you can see the outer lip in one of my pictures is pushed out slightly and there's a slight indentation above this area to compensate. I'm dying to tear the car apart and handle the repairs myself .... but have to decide first if I'm going to turn this over to my insurance or not, in which case it's probably best to keep the car in one piece.

    I'll let you know what I find when the hood gets opened. I'm thinking it just slipped at it's attaching bolts ... figures crossed !!
     
  13. speedball

    speedball Formula Junior

    Mar 29, 2004
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    Scot Anderson
    To whomever removed the one picture showing my licence plate number ... thanks .... I've never been one to worry too much about posting a licence number .... but received several PM's saying this wasn't a very good idea, especially given the topic at hand. I tend to compare posting a picture with this shown, to driving the car on the street or parking it in my driveway ... if someone want's to get this info ... there's plenty of ways to do so. But thanks to all those who gave me a heads up regarding the need to be more careful. I see this forum as one for like minded people and .... yes .... I didn't need to share any of this with everyone .... but then again, this is what Ferrarichat is all about and I really don't mind sharing my experiences with all the good people I've met on this forum.

    Thanks,
     
  14. klfpaul

    klfpaul Karting

    Apr 7, 2003
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    Murrieta, CA
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    Kevin Paul
    So you're the 550 that was in town! I was in the Giallo 355. Sorry to hear of this misfortune and I hope it gets fixed soon. I loved the sound of your 550, sounded real good. I also saw you later passing that bad accident scene (not related) on State Street later in the evening (I was not in the 355 at that time). I think I know what road you were on and it is a road used by the local street racers (ricers), and is normally not used that much (farm road). Most likely blocked to stop them from using it or allowing limited ways out in case of a bust.

    -Kevin
     
  15. DodgeViper01

    DodgeViper01 F1 Veteran

    Oct 1, 2003
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    Sorry to hear about that. The accident does not look that bad so it should be an easy fix. Probably need a new front and rear bumper.
     
  16. Smiles

    Smiles F1 World Champ
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    Nov 20, 2003
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    Sorry for your mishap.

    There's no need for anyone to give you grief. Even on familiar roads one encounters unfamiliar conditions!
     
  17. speedball

    speedball Formula Junior

    Mar 29, 2004
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    Spoke with Dave at Premier Autobody in Culver City. Sent him some pictures and arranged for the car to be flatbedded to his shop tomorrow. Based on my phone conversations he seems to be a pretty good guy. Told me he'd have it done in about three weeks ........ Btw, new bumpers are $ 5,000 each including paint and labor ...... Oh well!
     
  18. Hubert

    Hubert F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2002
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    Try Amato's Auto Body in San Diego (Sorrento Valley).
     
  19. norm

    norm Karting

    May 30, 2003
    204
    Rochester, NY
    I think once they dig into this, there will be more than just simple nose & back panel replacement. I would be very surprized if the frame didn't get tweaked due to your little off-road excursion. In addition, good possibility you beat up the underbody panels. But, nothing that can't be fixed.

    Good luck. Count your blessings, it could have been a lot worse and luckily no one hurt.
     
  20. speedy_sam

    speedy_sam F1 Veteran

    Jul 13, 2004
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    Man the 550M is a strong car. It came through it all with hardly that much damage. Cool car.

    Good decision making on your part in a crunch situation. You cant blame yourself at all. It was just a "racing incident" as they say in F1. Forget and move on.
     
  21. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Good choice!

    DL
     

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