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Ferrari F430 - Unveiled today (pics inside)

Discussion in '360/430' started by nopassn, Aug 24, 2004.

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  1. FerrariFlip

    FerrariFlip Karting

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    The car looks hot, thank god not like the 612.
    Can't wait to see it on the road!!!!
     
  2. Birdman

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    I definitely don't like the engine intakes up really high. I like the way the intakes on the 360 integrate into the side of the car and into the door handles better. I was hoping that the new car would deviate more from the 360, not because I don't love the 360, but because it's been around a while and something more aggressive looking would be a nice change. I definitely like it though. There is no doubt that this thing is going to stomp all the competition though. Holy crap, 500 HP out of such a light car!

    Funny thing is now all the other car companies are going to spend the next 4 years coming up with cars that are "as fast as the Ferrari". Every time a new Ferrari comes out, Lamborghini, etc. try to come up with cars as good as the Ferrari. Now that Lambo finally has a Gallardo to compete with the 360, and Ford has the GT40, the new Corvette is released, they are all screwed because Ferrari just released the 500 HP monster that they will all be trying to beat for another 5 years. In 5 years when they finally do it, Ferrari will have an F480 or something and start it all over again!!

    ;-)

    Birdman
     
  3. Ferrari0324

    Ferrari0324 F1 Rookie

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    Looks good in silver. It does look beefy and a bit tall.
     
  4. Nuvolari

    Nuvolari F1 Veteran
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    Ok I'll chime in with my observations and opinions (if anybody cares :) )

    Overall impression is rather cold. This car looks like a morph between an Enzo and a 360 and in my opinion is not enough of a departure from the look of the 360. Of course we saw this before with the 348 and then the 355 but I expected something more if not different.

    The mirror treatment is awful and I think that Ferrari is just pasting too many horses and markings on their cars.

    The lower inlet scoop on the side is a little too much like that on the Murcielago. I did not expect Pininfarina to copy its competitors like this.

    Rear diffuser is nice but could do with the lower piece found on the Challenge Stradale.

    Front bumper does not look refined in its design. While aerodynamically very efficient, the asthetic appeal is not there.

    Seats and center console look nice but the dash is far too cluttered in shape for my liking.

    An interesting styling cue is how the rear quarter arches actually have two ridges thereby following the tail lights. I think this will look nice.

    The engine looks nicer than on the 360 and I like the intakes entering on an angle.

    The verdict. I'll pass. Then again I am but a lowly 308 owner so I do not think that Ferrari is too concerned what I think.
     
  5. bobbyd

    bobbyd Formula Junior

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    Overall I like it, except possibly the rear. Reguarding specs, I note that the weight is up 170 kg over a CS and 60 kg over a Modena. Inevitable, I guess.
     
  6. Ferrari Boy

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    Cool, I love it. I think it is very nice, I love the steering wheel too.

    nopassn, you can upload the [size=+2]FULL SIZED PICS[/size] at www.ferrarirosso.com. All you have to do is register, no cost required. I'm sure everyone would appreciate the full sized pics :) Also fell free to check out all of the video's that others and I have all uploaded. There are some great flyby vids of Ferrari's going over 120 mph!!!
     
  7. phantasms

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    Just to let you know the new Z06 will be out at the same time with 500-515 hp, weigh the same or less, and have much more torque. There will be no need for catching up. The GT40 can already handle the 430. The gallardo will need some catching up though, which I'm sure they'll manage. Don't get me wrong. I'd rather have a 430 than the new Z. As the owner of a Z06 whose beaten and driven a 360 I know it's not all about speed.

    gene
     
  8. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    Separated at birth?
     
  9. Pong

    Pong Formula Junior

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    The numbers look good : the car looks....strange...

    The front bumper air intakes do not work for me. The rear is way too busy, but very modern. The steering wheel...just plain crazy with the knobamd button...don't like it.

    overall, I think the car is too aggressive. Ferrari doesn't need to design a car with so much flare and "look at me" factor. IMO 360's line is purer and simpler, thus staying with the tradition better. But again, I think Ferrari chooses this route to make sure that this car will beat the Gallardo in all area.

    Park the Gallardo and the 430 side by side....I will have a very hard time choosing.
     
  10. Godfather

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    WHEN IS THE SPYDER COMING OUT? :)
     
  11. exoticalex

    exoticalex Formula Junior

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    WOW! It holds quite an aggressive look and should definatly move!

    Thanks for the pictures and specs!
     
  12. Joker

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    They didn't say anything about it. I don't recall having seen a manual down there. I've been told at one point from my dealer that it was F1 only, but I've not had it confirmed (it's not an issue for me, since I prefer F1 - I consider manuals yesterdays technology but that's just my opinion).
     
  13. Joker

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    Just checked with my dealer. It will come as a manual as well. They told this at the dealer presentation the day after - but downplayed it apparantly.
     
  14. zff

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    I could sit here and pretend to be cool and sophisticated... "yeah, I don't like the front end" ..... "Nah, that Enzo tail treatment sucks"

    But I know the first time I see one in person, I'll be a giggling fool. "LOOK! An F430!!!! WOW!!!!"

    So much for cool and sophisticated. Ferraris -- especially new ones -- have an odd way of turning me into a 15-year-old again. :p
     
  15. pwongd

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    Hmm...I don't know what to say. The car is simply not a Ferrari, at least to my eyes. The F430 is way to busy to look at. I really think they have destroyed the classic voluptuous shape of the 360M. I'll wait for the next complete new model change. The F430 is the second wind kind of replacement. They just did a poor job of it. The F355 at least were a far better car than a 348!

    Sorry guys, but thump down for this one. I am hoping though that the actual car will look good. Some cars just need to be looked at in the flesh.
     
  16. nopassn

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  17. ferrariartist

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    i put this in the other thread for a photochop request... but since you asked...

    GT
     
  18. RotKopf

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    Okay, your spider chop-shot makes the car look wicked awesome. DADDY LIKE
     
  19. Casey_A

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    That is gorgeous. Now where did I put my lottery ticket? :)
     
  20. Cicero

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    I hate it. It looks like a photoshop or an aftermarket kit. The front is totally retarded and the rear is just plain stupid. I was really wanting to like this car, but this is just lazy engineering to me. I hope in person it doesn't look so silly.
     
  21. Senna1994

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    Is this motor still a 5 Valve or is it a 4 Valve? The tradition of 5 Valve with the 355 is what I hope remains with the 430.
     
  22. Peter

    Peter F1 Veteran
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    And you are entitled to your opinion! :)

    I prefer manual as I'm a traditionalist.

    Thanks for your reply... Now I can dream...
     
  23. F2003-GA

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    Hi Christian.You have seen the car in person what do you think about the nose design and the Enzo style lights?
     
  24. alanhenson

    alanhenson Formula 3

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    Drive a Gallardo and you won't. Ferraris are far more fun to drive than the Gallardo. I have driven 2 and they just didn't excite me.
     
  25. Joker

    Joker Formula Junior
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    I like it a lot - but I'm a bit biased, since I wasn't that fond of the 360 styling - the front never really grew on me and I thought it to be too... Hmmm... bland is perhaps the right word. The F430 is more aggressive - which I like - both front and rear. The new headlights are quite a lot better (and finally they have bi-xenons), and I like the taillights as well.

    I think the F430 is an improvement. I was just about to order a Murcie instead of my 360 Spider (which I don't particular like), but now I'll get the F430 instead.
     

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