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Insurance question......`

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by riverflyer, Sep 24, 2004.

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  1. riverflyer

    riverflyer F1 Rookie

    Nov 26, 2003
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    A guy at the track two days ago totalled his new Z06. He said his insurance company(allstate) was going to pick up the tab, but this really got me wondering. I have heard more and more, that insurance companies are dropping coverage at DE's. What do people here do for coverage and with what company?
    Its one thing to self insure a mini or svt but a 100k car is a bit different for many(most??) of us.
    thanks, John
     
  2. ART360

    ART360 Guest

    John:

    You have read the policy, very, very carefully. Some carriers have exclusions which would preclude coverage.

    ARt
     
  3. riverflyer

    riverflyer F1 Rookie

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    Does anyone know of any company offering specific event coverage?
     
  4. b-mak

    b-mak F1 Veteran

    It's extremely unlikely that Allstate is going to cover this. Most policies strictly prohibit on-track activities, regardless of the nature of the event.

    I think we've all heard the stories of guys towing their crashed cars from the track and dropping them into a ditch and THEN calling their insurance company.

    I've never heard of a company offering such coverage. I'd love to hear what happens. My auto policy is with Allstate, but I don't track my street cars, ever.
     
  5. Robin

    Robin F1 Rookie

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    I totalled a car at a track event... State Farm paid for it, then immediately dropped me. I think it was considered driver's ed since there was an instructor in the car (oddly enough, it was his hands on the wheel that sent me into a wall...) I imagine you can probably pull it off once, but expect to be dropped or to get no slack in the future. There was a thread a while back where someone mentioned a company that offers track coverage on an as-needed basis.

    -R
     
  6. rsrx

    rsrx Karting

    Dec 11, 2003
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    As an agent for a California company which will remain nameless...

    In the Physical Damage portion of the policy under EXCLUSIONS:

    (M) to loss occurring while a motor vehicle is being operated in any prearranged contest or competitive event.

    Now under this definition, I think that it would be open to interpretation.

    But that is what the attorneys are for..;-)
     
  7. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    Here's an interesting question:

    My policy covers me if I go to car shows but not if I drive it to work.

    Well, this past Thursday, I drove it to a car show which was held......at work! Yes, the company (a large one) sponsored a car show and invited employees with "interesting" cars to drive them to work.

    Among the cars on hand were a bunch of '60s U.S. muscle cars, a '48 DeSoto (!), a '30 Model A, an MG Midget, a Formula Ford, an alcohol dragster (!!), and one Ferrari.....mine.

    Nothing bad happened, but would the car have been covered?
     
  8. riverflyer

    riverflyer F1 Rookie

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    I understand that competition is not covered but tracking your car w/o timing and with clear rules against racing should not trigger this particular exclusion you have mentioned. But of course there may be more EXCLUSIONS lurking in the policies. Isn't there a difference?
     
  9. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

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    I have the same clause Jim and as it was explained to me, the car was not to be used in the capacity of a daily driver, in other words, transportation to work.

    I have the same kind of show here at Boeing that raises funds for the charities in the area. It is an official event and as such would fall under the 'for show' clause.
     
  10. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Every policy is slightly different, so buy the one that you need. The cheaper "collector" policies take into account that the car is not driven daily. Some even use terms like, "club events and parades." Many policies have mileage restrictions. Most have a competition exclusion. Understand that timed competitions are excluded, even though you are not on the track with other cars. The intent is to exclude track accidents. Well, duh! Insurance is available for special events or circumstances, but the question is: Do you want to pay what the insurance company will charge? Contrary to popular opinion, insurance underwriters are not stupid, nor are they in the business of insuring highly risky behavior for low premiums. Driving a car on a track at high speed is risky....that's why we love it!
     

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