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Help!!! Buy a Ferrari 355?!

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  1. JEBES

    JEBES Formula Junior

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  2. jimangle

    jimangle F1 Rookie

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    It's a beautiful car.
    Make sure you get a ppi and make sure aren't any issues with it.
     
  3. JEBES

    JEBES Formula Junior

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    #3 JEBES, Sep 27, 2004
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    I found some stone damage in the front spoiler. The was the only damage i found. thats i worried for is the miles. 6900 swedish miles. It's quite muth or what do you think???

    One pic of the engine too.
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  4. jimangle

    jimangle F1 Rookie

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    What's the difference between swedish and american miles?
    Well if the car has been driven (30k or more american miles) and it runs good, I'd get a PPI and look at the history of the car if it is available. Have the belts been changed? If the car has a lot of miles and runs good, it's obviously been taken care of, and has been a reliable car. So a lot of miles can be a good indicator of the cars history. Now if the car has a lot of miles and is ragged out, then I would step away. Get an inspection done on the car, and make sure the belts don't need to be changed. Look also to see if the car has had any valve work.
     
  5. JEBES

    JEBES Formula Junior

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    Some more info about the engeine... For ones years ago. 250 miles ago the mainstrap (Kamrem på svenska) was change, new packboxes, renolvd tops and some more stuff i can't translate into english. :(

    I take som information in swedish to if it anyone from sweden here who can help me maybe.

    Info: En helsvart skönhet som är mycket fin. Helt genomgången maskinellt med nya kamremmar, nya packboxar, nya spännrullar, nyrenoverade toppar, nya kolvringar, nya kamdrivningslager m.m. hösten 2003. Har endast körts ca 250 mil sedan dess. Bilen levereras med nyutförd årsservice och vi har monterat nya sportkatalysatorer på bilen. Besiktigad och godkänd med bra avgassvärden. Original verktygslåda finns, senaste servicehistoriken är samlad och handböcker finns till bilen, men original servicehäfte saknas. I övrigt standardutrustad med; ACC/Klimatanläggning, C-lås, Elhissar, Elspeglar, LM-fälgar, Servostyrning, Skinnklädsel, Stereo.
     
  6. tclark

    tclark Formula Junior

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    yumpin' yiminee!

    Looks beautiful.
     
  7. cinquevalvole

    cinquevalvole Formula 3

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    always go for the 1995 model with motronic 2.7 !

    forza

    cinque
     
  8. jimangle

    jimangle F1 Rookie

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    The main strap might be referring to the cam belts. So if they were changed than that's a good thing. Will the owner let you take the car to mechanic to so he can look at it? If not, than I'd walk. That is a beautiful car though. It's seems like a pretty good price too. I think about a year ago it was hard to find a 355 for under 100k.
     
  9. JEBES

    JEBES Formula Junior

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    The car owner of the car is a dealer so they have check the car... but i think it can be a good ide to let another dealer check it to.
     
  10. ferrari fernatic

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    let me be your looks expert it may not be red but black is the neaxt best thing. i saw that photo and said to myself beautiful.
     
  11. Jerrari

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    I love it in black, definitely my favorite F-car color! The price seems like it is fair here in the U.S. (if all service history is provided & PPI checks out), but I don't know your market prices there.
     
  12. 911Fan

    911Fan Formula 3

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    I would worry about the miles too but for a different reason. 700 miles per year is too low in my opinion. You might have unnecessary problems to fix because of the extremely low mileage. Better to find a car with at least 3K miles per year and a history of regular use.

    But it is a beautiful car in black!
     
  13. Higgins23

    Higgins23 Karting

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    I agree with 911fan. The mileage is too low and many hide a wole host of problems. Ferrari's need to be driven on a regular basis or all sorts of things start to degrade. Strongly suggest that you have a Pre Purchase Inspection done by a independant Ferrari Specialist. Good luck.
     
  14. vincent355

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    One of my favorite cars, and black on black the best colors or lack of IMO.

    PPI and then go for it!!! You won't look back.
     
  15. Pakan

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    Är det den Ferrarin som står på Von Braun ? 6900 mil är väl egentligen inte långt, det är väl längre än dom flesta F-bilarna på begagnatmarknaden har gått men jag tror inte att det är några problem. Dom har ju trots allt bytt ut det mesta verkar det som, och 250 mil efter det är ju inte mycket. 3k miles servicen dom pratar om ( Amerikanska miles ) är ju den stora servicen där dom får lyfta ur hela motorn och byta allt. Så nya topplock är väldigt bra för jag tror att ena sidan brukar spricka efter ett tag p.g.a att det bildas rester av något slag, vilket gör att det måste bildas högre tryck, antagligen på utblåssidan. Men det är trots allt en 95:a & allt är nybytt så... 565.000 svenska kronor är nog den billigaste i Sverige om du tittar på Palmstierna, Von Braun, Ross AB t.ex. Jag har själv ingen F-bil men är väldigt intresserad av dom och har läst väldigt mycket på det här forumet så man kan ju en del vid det här laget. Jag bor i Örebro så har du vägarna förbi kanske man kan få kika på pärlan. / Patrik
     
  16. JEBES

    JEBES Formula Junior

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    De där 250 milen kan vara mycket... 500 mil på en ferrari kan göra lika stor skillnad som 5000 mil på en vanlig bil om den körts lite på bana och inte sköts ordentligt.
     
  17. Pakan

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    ja de är klart. men det kan vara 5'000 mil extra på 2'000 mil eller 18'000 mil. men har du inte kollat med tidigare ägare då ? eftersom den ändå hade gått då 6'750 mil innan dom renoverade så är det inte omöjligt att den har fått gå på bana under dom milen. och eftersom den är nyrenoverad kan det vara upp till dig som köpare att ta ut den på bana efter renoveringen för att friska upp den lite. jag tror inte att någon handlare "missköter" sina bilar på så sätt att dom går piss direkt. om du har provkört, kollat upp tidigare service & dylikt och det verkar vara ok, så är det ju bara att skriva på papperen. men det är klart det är ju ändå en del pengar... men som dom säger ovanför, om den går bra så är det ju på plussidan att den har gått långt. då vet man ju att den har blivit väl omhändertagen. men också att man ska kolla om dom har gjort något med ventilerna, t.ex bytt dom. eller om man ska behöva byta remmarna inom en snar framtid för då behöver man lyfta ur motorn. sant också som du säger att du ska kolla med en annan handlare. PPI = Pre Purchase Inspection, och ska helst göras av en handlare som inte enbart säljer Ferrari. utan av en fristående verkstad som oftast kan vara ärligare i sina utlåtanden än en Ferrari-verkstad. inte för att jag tror att en Ferrari-verkstad är oärliga, men för att få ett utlåtande av nån som inte bara har F.
     
  18. JEBES

    JEBES Formula Junior

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    Thank you everybody!!!
     
  19. fiorano10

    fiorano10 Karting

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    Hi
    Why not add 15000 more and buy 97 spider perfect condition like the one
    you found.
     
  20. ghost

    ghost F1 World Champ
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    Because for $15K, he could take care of his 1995 Ferrari's maintenance for the next three years - :eek:

    I think the car looks like it is in superb condition. Engine also seems very clean. Get the PPI done, and enjoy!
     
  21. fiorano10

    fiorano10 Karting

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    But 97 spider by far is a better car as far as the frame,computer and
    free of problems that the 95 car have.
     
  22. LA Swede

    LA Swede Formula Junior

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    6900 Swedish Mil (69,000 km) is equivalent to about 40,000 miles. that is a fair amount, especially considering the short summer in Sweden. at least it is not a garage queen. it also looks like this car had a lot of stuff done to it:

    "nya kamremmar, nya packboxar, nya spännrullar, nyrenoverade toppar, nya kolvringar, nya kamdrivningslager m.m. hösten 2003. Har endast körts ca 250 mil sedan dess. Bilen levereras med nyutförd årsservice och vi har monterat nya sportkatalysatorer på bilen"

    new cam belts, newly renovated heads, new piston rings, new cam bearings, new seals and new cats, etc. new annual service (don't think they do that here in the U.S.)



    Potential issues with the 95 (from surfing the forum)

    1. C pillar crack (spricka dar c-pelaren moter bakluckan, pa berlinetta och GTS)
    2. Manifold crack (grenroret spricker, kop Tubi, eller skicka till nagon kille i UK som fixar dom, original spricker alltid)
    3. Valve guides (nagot med ventilerna, vet inte vad det heter pa svenska)
    4. cats (new on this car)
    I think von Braun does the M-test (motormannen), otherwise I'd recommend getting that. this car does not appear to have a complete service history (says only recent history), this is a potential issue, but may be tempered by the M-test.

    service is much cheaper in Sweden than here in the U.S., even considering the 35% hit the dollar has taken against the Krona in the past 2.5 years.

    also appears that it was imported and not originally sold in Sweden. Swedes tend to take care of their cars very well and I'd prefer to have a car that was originally from Sweden.

    Looks like you just missed a Red Spider with similar miles at von Braun. had a complete rebuild on the engine for maybe another 100,000 kronor. was a 97 too, I think.

    I'd personally add another 200,000 kronor to get the Titanium 99 they have. Looks nice, but it has an F1 transmission.

    Lycka till!
     
  23. 911Fan

    911Fan Formula 3

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    Well, apparently my knowledge about Sweden isn't what it ought to be!

    Can anyone tell me why a Swedish mile is 10 kilometers? And can it really be that Ferraris sold in Sweden have odometers calibrated in Swedish miles?

    Inquiring minds and all that...
     
  24. LA Swede

    LA Swede Formula Junior

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    The unit is a "mil" which is 10 kilometers. 16 kilometers is about one U.S. mile.

    The odometers are calibrates in kilometers and are no different than in other countries that use the metric system, however, since a "mil" is 10 kilometers, you can easily read how many "mils" a car has gone by looking at a kilometer odomoeter.
     
  25. 911Fan

    911Fan Formula 3

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    Thanks!

    How is the word "mil" pronounced? I hope it's not "mile" -- I'd hate to get directions in Stockholm if that's the case! :)
     

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