CHP 11-99 Foundation, any members here?

22350. No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property.

Sorry Matt, That is the most basic speed law. Go to google and type in just
"22350" That is right off the DMV web site. You are lucky, since you were over 25 mph, he could have written you up differently. With 22350 you are still eligible for traffic school.

I got written for 85 in a 25 and he wrote me up as 22350 as well, thanks to T.S., still a clean record.

 

But were you two apexing the corners and getting on the gas as early as possible?

 

Right you are, but the argument is: when I was caught the weather was nice and sunny, there was unlimited visibility, there were no cars in front of me, I was driving on a stretch of straight and smooth 4 lane hwy, there were no pedestrians around and hence I was not endangering the safety of any person or property. I also have witnesses who provide affidavit under oath my side of the story. During my research I ran into this and since it is not black & white there may be an opportunity for dismissal. If I was written up for cvc22349 there was no chance as in this one directly discusses the violation of posted speed limit.

 

Those words hurt you.
87 in a 50 is not either.

The reason why they (cops/pigs/po-po) use 22350 is that it is hard for you to prove to a judge that you were being reasonable or prudent.


As well, I am pretty sure 17 is a double fine zone, unless you were down the hill completly, on the straight under main st/hw 9. The speed increases after that to 65. Otherwise, from Scotts Valley all the way almost to Lark, it is posted as being 50.

 

I am going to request the speed survey done by caltrans. It's all very subjective, especially the way 22350 is written up. I am not saying it is a slam dunk but there is a shot.

 

Some not so good news for your side of the fight. In court, the traffic commisoner can revise the ticket to 22349. My roomates dad (Chirs from go-kartings father in law.) was a traffic cop for ~20 years. I just talked to him and read him what you have written. He said simply put, the T.C. will then amend the ticket. The speed difference was to great. He stated that if he had pulled you over, he would have written you up for 22349 without doubt, but there is not reason not to have written you the way the CHP did.

But of course, i think it sucks either way. I am not siding against you at all. Wishing you the best of luck with this!!!!
I am suprised as he was, that the CHP did not let you go with the 11-99 plate. But, think about how many other Ferraris he may have seen going the other away that day and not able to catch them.

 

Yes, it sucks but that is such is life... You are right about the amendment. The officer has until the information/ticket has been submitted to court for prosecution to amend the ticket. If they try to amend the ticket during the trial I think it will be grounds for dismissal and shows the officer doesn't really know why he wrote me up or he was confused... It has happened to me where the officer took my birth date down wrong and few days later the ticket was amended otherwise the ticket would have been dismissed.

It just goes to show you nothing is gauranteed when becoming a member of chp 1199, even if you have a good attitude and a clean record. One is always at the mercy of the officer.

 

Someone I know has been tagged 3X on 280 with CHP 11-99 on his SL55. It doesnt work all the time.

Donate to CHP 11-99 for its intent & purpose. Otherwise it will be a very extremely expensive rear bumper ornament.

 

Noel, did you read my earlier post. The first CHP in the morning let me go. So instead of getting two tickets I got one and I am glad, in a way I got the 2nd one, because I was going much much faster than the speed limit earlier in the day.

 

Yes Matt. I read it.

I was just making a general statement as it seems it is a guaranteed thing.

I am all for it since it is for a very good cause. Just be safe.

Cheers.

 

I agree with that. Expecting to rage all over the place and expect CHP to sit back and smile all the time for $1800 donation is unreasonable. This isn't Mexico.

 

I would have preferred if you had said, "this is not Montana." Let's not get into the driving regulations, I could probably write books about other people's bad habits on the road, let's just say sometimes it feels like it is Mexico, he he he...I don't mean to blow this out of proportion, but I own a sports car and I drive it quickly from point a to b. That's the sole reason I own it. In the meantime I may get tickets here and there which is one of the risks I take in owning a sports car and driving fast. It is fine with me. I can't deny the fact that CHP1199 has helped already. They seem to be more accommodating if you are not reckless, which is very subjective. As long as they are courteous and pleasant when they issue the ticket, I am a happy camper.

 

My Mexico reference was to suggest you shouldn't be able to buy a license to recklessly speed (to each our own definition of reckless) for $1800. I think in Mexico or I have heard in other South American countries... you can buy your way out of any traffic law enforcement situation.

btw, 4i2fly, isn't the advantage of your ticket written the way it is, that you avoid getting penalized for being more than 20 over the speed limit? It seems like now you just get regular speeding ticket, but you could have been nailed more seriously for going 20 (or is it 25mph) over the speed limit? If true, then you did get some real break here.

 

No doubt about getting a break! I was 37 MPH over speed limit according to the officer. Honestly, I was not going that fast. As I said, the officer was courteous and calm, and I did everything they expect one to do when stopped for traffic violation. Never asked me or said any sarcastic comments about my speed, just wrote me up.

For years, I dismissed tickets here in San Mateo County, not through traffic school, but through the legal system. I got breaks on the fine and moving violations changed to some non-moving violations hence no burdon on driving record. Although very different than 3rd world nations where you can buy your way through anything, here in the States you can do the same if you know how the system works.

 

When I went to traffic school (for the first and last time), the instructor asked everyone with a 22350 violation to raise their hands. 2/3 of the class raised their hands. She went on to explain that cops issue that citation because judges NEVER overturn them. It's a judgement call and the tie goes to the lawman.

 

Are there other ways to get out of tickets besdies the CHP1199? What about being in the military, an EMT or paramedic? I hear fire men have special licenses they carry around, this helps them get out of tickets and even gets them into the most exclusive night clubs. Can someone comment on this?

 

They all work, to one degree or another. Always depends on the circumstances and the nature of your transgression. MD plates are a good way to go.

 

Hey, I'm looking to join the 11-99 foundation but need to be referred. Anyone here willing to help a brother out?

Thanks in advance.

 

i worked for the chp as a helicopter mechanic, and ive been pulled over doing 72 in a 55 and no ticket they take care of there own as a member of the 11-99 foundation you will get special treatment hope this answeres some peoples questions on whether its worth the 1800.00 dollers

 

A funny thing that I noticed is that whenever someone is pulled over by a motorcycle cop, they ALWAYS give tickets. Whereas, the cops in the cars sometimes let people off with a warning. What do you guys think? THe CHP 9/11 foundation I guess gives one a little cushion for speeding but if one does it excessively, one is asking for trouble.

 

I have been a longtime 11-99 Life Member. My thoughts are these:

Join 11-99 for its stated purpose: support of the CHP and particularly injured or deceased officers/their families.

Regard your license frame simply as a friendly sign to any viewing CHP officer that you are someone who appreciates and respects the job he/she's doing and its hardships & risks.

If instead you think of that frame as an expectation for that officer to disregard his/her duty & sense of fairness in exchange for the money you've paid for it, you insult the officer and lessen yourself.

If you are pulled over for a relatively minor matter, and the officer has reasonable discretion as to whether to ticket or warn you, his/her perception of your attitude towards driving/the law/the CHP may well enter into his/her decision. 11-99 is supposed to signal that you are a more than usually conscientious person in these regards. Q.E.D.

Instead of regarding it as a "license to speed", I actually found that putting the frame on my car made me more sensitive to highway laws - that I was supposed to be setting a good example. In that sense, yes, it has prevented me from getting any tickets since i joined ten years ago.