I feel EVERYONE here should see this

Tom
You are quite right about that. I also think that anyone who owns one of these cars should take a 3 day Skip Barber or equiv. course.
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Yes...this would be what you might term an orthopaedic surgeon's delight.

 

that is kind of what my uncle done when he brought his mondial. i know it is just mondial not something like the 360 or 550 but still even when no-one was around on the first two weeks when he purchased the car he drove slow and steady. i think in a way we all feel our foot itching to fall a few cm towards the floor but those few cm put many peoples lives at risk.

 

Sadly, that blue car had only been on the road a very short time since restoration........

Driving Instruction courses are a very good idea to familiarize yourself with these cars handling 'quirks'.......

 

OMG... That stuck me in the heart... It's very important to know a cars limits... I hope that never happens when i get my Ferrari... (in some years of course)

 

More important is to know your own limits. The "snap oversteer" described in the thread isn't as much of a "snap" if you know how to drive.

 

Yep these cars are fast and you better know what you are doing before playing.

Sorry to be so blunt, but just because you can afford a Ferrari does not mean you can drive ... and with all cars you should feel your way in slowly, and if you have no performance driving experience ... er, get it before it is too late.

Accidents do happen, but like anything ... to do it properly you need to learn ... and I think the old and apt saying is: Slow in fast out, makes for a great rule on public roads.

Pete

 

At least he made it out ok. I hope his recovery was swift.

 

I think you'll find he was only doing 75kph when this happened and sometimes no matter what you've been taught it won't help in the right circumstances, even the Schu has had a few offs and I think he knows how to drive.

As you can tell, my attitude has been modified since my accident and there are always some circumstances that will pop up that will leave you at the mercy of the gods.

 

John,

I am not giving you are hard time ... but if the corner was a 40kph corner then 75kph was a mistake, and thus not reading the road and following the 'slow in fast' out rule. We know that he entered the corner too fast, for either the car or his driving ability, because he had to control understeer ... thus he was not reading the road correctly for safe 'I am sharing the road with others attitude'.

Again it is never the actual speed, but how appropriate the speed in that situation.

He also lifted mid corner, and obviously did not get back on the gas to give the car the necessary 'I am being controlled' feeling.

Yes accidents do happen unfortunately, like yours due to unpredictable road conditions thanks to rain ... BUT everybody that purchases a performance car owes it to other road uses to get some basic performance driving training, unless we all want to abide by the speeding is simply dangerous brigade, and speed limit ALL cars.

Driver ability is where I believe road safety should be focused on ... otherwise I have no choice but to support my wifes belief that all cars should be restricted to 100 kph maximum speed as ALL drivers are incompetent.

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Pete
ps: Er, I just re-read my post and yes, John I am jumping to conclusions, but he had just purchased the car.

Even when I buy a Toyota people mover, I drive like a 'pussie' for a good month, slowly getting my instincts to develop to understand the nuisances of this new car ... actually I drive like a 'pussie' 90% of the time now on public roads ... just not worth the ticket or accident.

I have watched many times (especially young) people get new cars and crash within the first week or 2, showing off or just not giving themselves time to adjust their limits.

This is one of the reasons I feel young people should be power and torque restricted until they have a few years under their belt. With a slow car you can make mistakes (like lifting in a corner) and have a slow accident and laugh about it later in life ... with a fast car you potentially have a bigger accident as you hit something harder.