Are there any Firefighters out there own a Ferrari

This experienced firefighter merely asks if any others own a Ferrari and you respond with a huge uncalled for very personal judgment of what people should be able to afford. How rediculous to say that you are not an elitist. Why should you be free to assess what people should be able to afford. You say in effect we pay their salaries. Well someone pays your salary too and as so many others have said more eloquently on this board, the work firemen and policemen do in saving HUMAN lives seems immensely undervalued. Most have tremendous heart, skill bravery compassion --qualities that are not shining through in you posts here.


Then after reading all of these responses, you acccuse many of the people here of poor reading comprehension. Not an elitist? Yeah right. Nowhere have you genuinely apologised or tried to repair the apparent callousness of your words. Who has appointed you to judge so many? Like others, I am extemely grateful that the people protecting our lifes and educating our children show more grace and concern than this. I also echo the sentiments of those who think that many public servants and particularly firefighters and policeman should, if only justice were at issue, be able to enjoy a ferrari--a car in the end--as a well earned reward for all they done for us, our families and strangers in need of help.

 

Coming from a family of police officers and fire fighters, I can only say that you are a d-o-u-c-h-e bag.

 

I would say they are paid INAPPROPRIATELY. Whats the average? $40,000 for risking your life?

 

To answer your question directly, yes, I know a great firefighter who owned a beautiful 355, but unfortunately died recently. He took it to the firehouse to share it with his buddies often, and loaned it to one of them for his wedding.
That spirit of generosity is just another marker of how great the FF community is.
And I know of police officers & teachers with Ferraris, too.
As someone said, it isn't a mark of whatever you consider "status" in life, but what you do with what you have.
These are all very good people who deserve anything good that comes to them. They are a very nice credit to the Ferrari community.
Just my 2C worth....

 

What the FU%K! You say something stupid, apoligize then say something more stupid. So who does deserve to get paid enough to own a 360 or 430? I risk my life everyday to well help preserve my community's sense of well being. I sat for 14 hrs. yesterday on the scene of a $15,000,000-- yea that's million --arson case. No food or drink because catching this bastard is more important. I didn't complain or gripe and yes I chose this profession, but who the hell are you to say I shouldn't make more than pro sports players or musicians. God I hope you never need the services of us lowly public servants.

 

I was a Medic in NJ (Newark among other areas) for about 9 years. Miss it.

 

i don't know, is your life or the life of one of your loved ones worth a 360 Modena...?

A five figure donation could be my salary; i don't have money to give to the fire department...

...however, despite the fact that i've NEVER given ANYthing to ANY firefighter, if i were trapped in a burning building, they would STILL come in and save my sorry ass...! That, my friend, is why we hold them in such high regard...


You've over estimated our reading comprehension skills...? Au contraire, i think we've overestimated yours... Why should we "seriously reconsider our taxation policies" if a volunteer firefighter could afford a 360 Modena...? This questions, brings up my initial question: "...is your life or the life of one of your loved ones worth a 360 Modena...?"


JChoice, some of us can't go making donations left and right... However, as i already stated, despite the fact that firefighters don't get praise on a daily basis, they still selflessly risk their lives... Maybe we don't donate or contribute, but we sure as hell won't sit here and let someone else be so condescending about them... Welcome to FerrariChat.

 

Yea what Carb said!!! Please take a ride down here to Charles County, MD. Better yet bad idea. Stay away from here, very far away. Now on a lighter note can someone give this lowly cop a 360, Rossa Corsa will be fine. HAHA

 

I can't help it.

Anyone who will step into a burning building to save lives, anyone who can walk up to a vehicle in the night to get a registration not knowing if he / she will get a shot to the head, anyone who can pull onto the scenes of an accident in an ambulance not knowing what they will see or find, anyone who can go into any battle not knowing if they will ever see there wife, newborn son, or daughter again --- You ALL have my heart felt gratitude.

Thank you.

Warmest regards,

Stay safe out there.


Cdog

 

I don't know what you have against public servents, but money isn't everything, you can make a small amount of money, lets say 45k a year, and still own a 3x8 Series or something more recent.

For what firefighters do everyday, they deserve to have their dreams furfilled. If one of those dreams is to own a ferrari, he has just as much right to as everyone else.

Cheers
Andrew

 

Are there any Firefighters out there own a Ferrari?

Do you remember, that is why this thread was started. Why don't we give the side issues a rest?

So far out of all these posts, I think only one other FF has responded.

Rob, your welcome for the response. I bet if you took a poll most guys with fast cars would be volunteer guys, just like how you started. You think? BTW- the 308 is a great looking car.... have fun driving.

 

At the risk of "receiving dead threats" from some of the people on this post ..... here's my two cents.

I respect Firemen, but even more so Policemen ..... I'm not either (just a tax payer who works very hard for my money) ... so here's a few thoughts to bring things into perspective. In So Cal, whenever there's an opening for a Firemans position.... there's typically thousands of people lined up hoping for the one or two openings. The opposite is usually true for Police positions. Logic dictates there must be a reason why so many people stand in line for the few Fireman positions available. Yes, the standard line is always how "they risk their lifes". This is true .... but in reality .... very rarely in a Fireman's career do they find themselves in a truely dangerous situation .... unlike policemen who risk their lives daily. The typical income in So Cal is in the $ 60 to $80k range plus benefits.

The Firemen I know all have very nice homes in the best communities, they all have jet boats, jet skis, big motorhomes, nice cars and plenty of time and money to enjoy them. In fact .... the only person I know who owns a truely great ferrari, a 275GTB, is a Fireman with LA County. My Fireman friends appear to be on vacation more than they work ... and usually without taking much vacation time ... because they can adjust their schedule to fit their lifestyle, change shifts with there buddies, etc. It's typical for them to work maybe 3 days out of 9 ... but they always talk about how many hours a week they work (I think it's around 60 hrs) .... but who else has a job that pays for a 24 hour day, even while they're sleeping, watching TV and hanging with the guys in the station house talking about their outside ventures and businesses. I'm not dumping on this ...... but I've lived in the same high density neighborhood for 15 years and have never seen a house or building burn within 5 miles of my home in all this time. I do hear firetrucks drive by at times but it's usually as backup for the paramedics responding to some medical emergency, accident or what not. In todays LA Times there was a story about how 74% of one LA departments Firemen took medical disability so they could get higher retirement benefits ..... compared to single digit percentages nationally. LA based Firemen can retire after 20 years at close to full pay for the rest of their life, yet they are typically in their 40's when they do and the tax payer is stuck with the bill for the next 30 or so years. Something like 80% of LA Counties annual budget goes just to Police and Firemen costs and their retirement benefits. That leaves only 20% for all other county services. If you've ever been to Lake Havasu ... it's the So Cal Firemen's retirement capital of the world ..... check out who has the biggest and nicest houses, the biggest and fastest boats on the lake .... 8 out of 10 times .... it's a retired So Cal Firemen (most likely on disability retirement) ... and of course ... looking fit as can be while water skiing behind their $ 100k boat.

I know my comments don't apply to most other areas of the country ..... but here in LA ..... thousands line up to be Firemen because they know it's the best job in the world ..... and the benefits by a long shot outway the risks .....

I'm only posting this not to be disrespectful of Firemen .... but to bring some balance to this thread. Everyone tends to immediately jump on the "Firemen are Gods" bandwagon whenever anyone says anything that's considered less than high praise for them. I'm sure I'll be slammed shortly as well. My position is this ... they serve a great purpose and are needed ... but there are so many others that toil away for 40, 50 years at remenial jobs with a quarter the benefits and income ... and with a much higher risk of injury ..... yet receive little in return compared to the great life most Firemen here in LA enjoy. Bottom line .... they are fully compensated several times over for "their service and sacifice" to the community. No need to sing their praises everytime someone mentions anything about Firemen.

There was an interesting documentary shown on PBS a few years ago .... the NYFD has since killed it from ever being shown again ..... a Frenchman happened to be filming a documentary at the closest fire station house to the world trade center on the morning of 9/11 ... he followed them to the twin towers and filmed away ..... after the towers fell ... he went with all the firemen back to the station house that afternoon ..... they stayed there all night in the dark because the power was out and they didn't know what to do .... all the guys from the station sat around talking about how bad things were and how this one guy from their station had been lost because he didn't return to the station ...... they did nothing that night ..... the next morning in walks the missing fireman .... everyone asks this guy where he had been all night ... his answer "I was at the world trade center digging for surviors" ..... I'm not belittling the Firemen that died ...... again .... just bringing some balance to the issue.

 

sure they may not be in danger all the time like a police officer but when you are stuck in a burning car or house they will be there trying to save your life. if they want a ferrari or have a fancy boat that keeps them focused and relaxed to better perform their job, so what.

 

My brother is a fireman and could easily afford almost any Ferrari South of the super cars and 360 spider. He is my partner in our home building business. The largest developer in our area is a fireman, who is obviously now getting ready to retire not needing the firemans pay any longer. If he so desired, an Enzo wouldn't be a stretch.

Don't let the firemen in the 100K boats and fancy homes fool ya. Most of them rarely live off of their "base" pay. Lots of firemen are there for the benefits and steady pay check. My bro loves his job, but he'll be the first to admit it was the desire to start his own company that drove him to the job.

I'm an energy trader with as much, if not more time off than my brother the fireman. My trader job would allow me to purchase a late 355 or early 360 and no one would wonder how I got it. Funny thing is that my bro is a much more savy investor than myself and has much more money even though my "job" pays much more than his.

It cracks me up to stop by the firehouse to visit my brother and see JT, the developer, washing a friggen fire engine.

You never know....

 

when i was working in LA some of the wealthiest people would come in cut off shorts and flip flops. they looked like they came straight from the beach. you never can tell.

 

As a "public servant" I think I'll chime in here. This guy is a moron. First of all there are a lot of firefighters that could easily afford a new Ferrari based on thier salary. Many officers, firechiefs are pulling in 80-90K per year. PLENTY of money. If their wives work pulling in 40 or 50, it's PLENTY of money to afford a new Fcar. In fact, they could be making MUCH LESS and buy a new FCar, it's all about priorities and choices.
As far as the "public servant" comment, that just shows how ignorant you really are. We seem to have focused here on FireFighters. Let's broaden our minds a bit and look at a few more public servants. Cops, firefighters, FBI, CIA, All federal, State, Local employees. Judges, the list goes on. There are many very wealthy public servants who get paid well for what they do. Many have F Cars, Many don't. Just like all private sector people. Get a clue, get a brain. Stupid A$$.

By the way, I'm a public servant, employed by Dept. of Defense. Civilian. I've had two F Cars. Looking at a new 360, but maybe I'll get it. Maybe I won't. The final factor will not be the cost.

 

my best friend is a proff. firefighter and car lover...his wife wont let him buy a f car...he is the driver of his firetruck....so i have let him drive my 360...boy can he drive!!!! made me look like i didnt know what a sports car is!!!!he said after whipping thru narrow inner city streets in a firetruck at high speed, driving the ferrari on country back roads was a breeze!!!! perhaps we have the new training grounds for the next great american f1 driver!!!!

 

keep in mind manyfirefighters have second jobs they can do on there days off.....some do contracting, roofing, wood work, renovations.,etc....many of my firemen friends are very well off....

 

To the Black Stallion..
You are not alone. I am from Durban in South Africa. I am the proud owner of a " Ferrari F430 Spider". I've had this car since 2014.
I'm also proud to say that I utilize my 4 days off, "fruitfully" and I am "debt-free".
And to the "poor- guy" who cannot understand/expect a ""firefighter"" to own a Ferrari... You are "4-given".... ( that's my Registeration Plates ).... Jealousy "burns", and as firefighters, we know all about that...don't we....?
Keep in touch "black-stallion" Gregory Samuel....Facebook

 

I do donate to my fire department and my brother is a volunteer.

I guess firemen are all married to little women standing in a corner in his world? The two women I know who are married to firemen pull down over 500k a year themselves. Is that enough to buy a 360?

 

Looking at BLACK HORSE's public profile it would appear that he is an Environmental Health and Safety manager these days (The thread was from 12 years ago! to be fair)

602rwt hasn't been on Fchat since 06-03-2005, so on that one, you're tapping your keys in vain I'm afraid!


To all the emergency workers on Fchat, be you Ferrari owners or not: Thank you for all you do, you all deserve more money as far as I'm concerned, and I hope you all stay safe and enjoy long and happy lives!

 

I can understand and can somewhat agree with 602rwt. I think what he's trying to say is that in our current "free market" economic system, fire fighting is not a favorable career in terms of salary ALONE. It's a carrier of choice and not one that traditionally pays what many here believe is deserved but we have ourselves to blame for not rewarding fire fighters with a lifestyle we think they are entitled to. They have themselves to blame if they have gone head first into a career thinking it will enable them to procure luxury cars. Luxury cars are purchased with cash, not good deeds and intentions.

So don't blame the poster for making an obvious statement, blame the society you live in for structuring its economic model that compensates those who add more perceived value than others. On the other hand, do we agree bankers should have the means to acquire multiple supercars? What value to they provide to society? It's all a matter of perspective and something limited to the time and place we live in. Note that public service jobs pay the best in dictatorships and monarchies, not in a free market system.

I'll leave you with another example that's true in this day and age. You are better off as a Tradesman in Australia than you are as a Professional. That's right. Because of Australia's short sightedness in its push to provide a free tertiary education to anyone who applied, it tilted the scales towards those pursuing a trade and compensated them accordingly based on supply and demand. Now the plumbers and sparkys have the rental properties whilst the Engineers are renting. Does that make any sense or is it a clear indication that something is imbalanced?

 

Reminds me of an old joke.

Plumber (to customer): That will be $1500.

Customer: I'm a doctor and I don't make that much for 15 minutes work.

Plumber: When I practiced brain surgery I didn't make this much either!

BTW, a firefighter friend of mine owns a Dino, and a couple other very nice cars and motorcycles.