Daytona Spider Question

And here we have the history:
http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/FE-365GTS4-15297/history.shtml

 

Boudewijn, the pictures i have of 15297 (probably from Mike Sheehan's website) show the interior as being all black...
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You're right NNO, system error.

 

Well, if the history cited above is correct then 15297 can't be the car we are looking for. If Roger Sherman was indeed the original owner, and I have been told that Art Miller got the car from Roger Miller, then the history of the car as supplied by Armen rules out 15297!

 

Wow, I didn't intend to make this so difficult! Now I REALLY want to know, WHERE IS THIS CAR TODAY!!!! Thank you all for helping. Is this a mystery car???? I would beleive this is the original color??? In the pictures the car is 5 years old. We bought the car in 1975 making it 3 years old. It must have been original. Unfortuneatly all we have is the color to go by.

 

Come on Gerald and Carbon!!! You guys can do it!
Erik

 

I've never been so excited about a Daytona Spyder

This is really cool.

 

Armen, have you tried the Daytona Registry...?

 

You guys know much more about this than I do - what is the reason that Armen's car couldn't have been 16455? Is it known that Mr. Lanvin (?) owned the car from 1972-1991, or is it just known that he owned it in 1972 and someone else owned it in 1991, with no known history in between?

Seems strange that at least four "owners" are known on Armen's car (dealer in Nyack, Armen's father, Hamilton, and Haratounian) but no one can firmly associate any of these names with a particular serial numbered Daytona Spyder.

 

NNO yes I've check it out before. No luck. I will E-mail Paul maybe he could help! Please nobody give up on me now!!!! Lets get to the bottom of this "Mystery Car".

 

Alright I need more resources but lets go through as many spyders as we can rule out and then we will at least narrow down the search. Armen's car couldn't be
16915
16223
16895
16903
14553
15297
16455
Everyone keep adding to the list and eventually we will get it!!!
Erik

 

Not 17051
17053
17073

 

not 17013
16903
17045

 

Also,
If you have access to eliminate the euro cars.

 

How about this site.
http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/summary/SN.365.GTS4.Daytona.Spyder.htm

 

Alright thanks for the site Armen!
Erik

 

Erik, i think the last thing we want to do is ADD to a list... Gerald had it narrowed down to about six cars... 15297 seemed like the best match, but if the history posted on 15297 is true, then it's gonna pretty tough to figure out...

 

Carb the car can't be 15297 due to the history of owner's!! It also can't be one of these 90
1. 14365
2. 14371
3. 14373
4. 14373
5. 14383
6. 14387
7. 14389
8. 14359
9. 14403
10. 14415
11. 14463
12. 14465
13. 14469
14. 14471
15. 14537
16. 14547

18. 14557
19. 14563
20. 14565
21. 14605
22. 14671
23. 14699
24. 14737
25. 14739
26. 14761
27. 14779
28. 14813
29. 14823
30. 14829
31. 14857
32. 14913
33. 14993
34. 15179
35. 15239
36. 15277
37. 15297
38. 15369
39. 15383
40. 15429
41. 15525
42. 15535
43. 15579
44. 15593
45. 15687
46. 15841
47. 15845
48. 15909
49. 15911
50. 15917
51. 15919
52. 15939
53. 15963
54. 15969
55. 16223
56. 16451
57. 16463
58. 16465
59. 16467
60. 16473
61. 16475
62. 16497
63. 16545
64. 16549
65. 16689
66. 16697
67. 16835
68. 16839
69. 16847
70. 16857
71. 16859
72. 16895
73. 16901
74. 16903
75. 16911
76. 17013
77. 17039
17045
78. 17047
79. 17051
80. 17053
81. 17055
82. 17057
83. 17059
84. 17061
85. 17063
86. 17065
87. 17067
88. 17069
89. 17071
90. 17073

 

WOW!!!!!!!!

 

That only leaves like 30 others So Carb what kind of info do you have on the other vins not listed.
Erik

 

i don't know, but when Gerald went through them, he narrowed it down to six... i'm pretty sure it has to be one of those six... Are we absolutely certain that the history on 15297 is correct...?

 

Carb you know the numbers of the 6 Gerald narrowed it down to?
Erik

 

The cars I originally narrowed it down to were six cars that I knew had been redone in black/tan. But the known history eliminated four of them. But there was a seventh car that started out gray/red.

So I wound up with three candidates:

14857. Originally giallo fly 20-Y-191. But offered for sale in 1974 in TX described as silver-gray with red leather. Alleged to have been sold 1974 to Horace Hull II, Memphis, TN. Then offered Feb 1978 by Motor Cars d'Elegance, Santa Ana, CA. Light charcoal gray with burgundy interior. Blaupunkt Berlin stalk radio/cassette. Next offered Jul 1978 by Stutz Motor Car Co., Los Angeles, CA. Black with tan interior. 12,000 miles. Lots of subsequent history.

15297. Originally grigio ferro 106-E-8 with rosso 3171 interior. No early history known until 1986 when Art Miller, Miami, FL acquired it from Roger Sherman of Florida. Some claim Sherman was original owner. Then offered offered Dec 1986 by MDR Enterprises, Santa Monica, CA. Black with tan interior. Lots of subsequent history.

16455. Originally grigio ferro 106-E-8 with rosso 3171 interior. Owned 1979 -198? by Jerry Siemons, Beverly Hills, CA. Offered 1983 by Walt McCune, Modena Imports, West Hollywood, CA. Red with black interior. Zero miles on rebuilt engine. Then Nov 1991 at "The Auction", Las Vegas, NV. Described as gray with red interior. Lots of subsequent history.

 

14857 is 100% the car!!!!!!! My father owned Motorcars in Santa Ana in 1978. I am SO SORRY I left that part out. I actully forgot! The search is over 100%!!!!!!! Thank you SO MUCH! Is there any history I can have e-mailed to me please??? [email protected]
Gerald, I appreciate ALL you help and your time!!! Thank you everybody for helping!!!!!! Another mystery solved!!!
That makes my day. MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.

 

Another VERY INTYERESTING STORY!!!!! How Ironic is this, Monday I had lunch with Jerry Siemons & my father. We were talking Ferraris (how could you not!) I told him my favorite Ferrari was a Daytona Spider. He went off telling my he had a very rare color Daytona Spider. DARK SILVER/BURGANDY interior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I flipped out!! NO WAY! I told him the story about this thread. How I was searching for my old car. The years I owned it and so on... He owned his car for 12 years but overlapped the years my father owned his. So He was going to call me back on his VIN#. He thought it was 16XXX, 16445??? 16455. Last night I called him and confirmed his must have been 16455. He agreed.
Here is a gentleman i've MAYBE met once 20 years ago (when my father owned Rodeo Coach) ( A whole different story) I'm having lunch with him and this conversation comes up! DARK SILVER/BURGANDY!!!!!!!! ONLY 3 of them! Crazy, Crazy, Crazy!!!!