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Crappy Replicas thread

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by ninyo, May 23, 2004.

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  1. F1Ace

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  2. f355b

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    Still love replicas?
    what a joke.
     
  3. lear60man

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    All that talent and all they can do is copy ... pity. They obviously have the ability to take on TVR, etc.

    Heck they would probably make great restorers too. Each to their own I guess.

    Pete
     
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  6. '77 308GTB

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    That's pretty bad! Can't be cheap either?

    The application of body panels, paint and plastic to an existing car is ugly, stupid and embarrasing for the driver and anyone admiring it. This is truly a "kit" car, one where the pieces obviously come in box.

    However, I certainly believe that there is a place in this world for quality replicas, not kits. I happen to own one, however not for long as it is on e-bay right now, check it out:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4511326345&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

    One day I'd like to build a Daytona Coupe replica. Just being involved in every nut and bolt, being able to specifiy every component, and putting it all together into a recognizable high performance machine. It's a different experience from owning my Ferrari or Maserati, and one that I will always relish.

    Todd
     
  7. lear60man

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    Who is the company that makes the great F40 replica. I think it is in NZ or Australia. Exotic Dream Builders had the talent, but they are no longer in business. Nice guys.
     
  8. ashsimmonds

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    [QUOTE='77 308GTB]...However, I certainly believe that there is a place in this world for quality replicas, not kits. I happen to own one, however not for long as it is on e-bay right now, check it out:...[/QUOTE]
    yeah well, bit of a difference between a ground-up built replica vs an existing car with body panels added to look like something else.

    cobra replicas are common and rarely bad quality, imagine something like a miata with a GT stripe, sidepipes and a 427 badge... :D actually, has that ever been done?

    there needs to be some distinction between a replica and a cosmetically modified car.
     
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  10. Pantera

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    Give me a kitcar over a rice rocket anyday!.

    BTW: last post of 2004 see you guys in 2005.
     
  11. PSk

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    NZ ... but cannot remember the name, something like F40 developments (?).

    Yep you can buy them in Australia (don't remember the details), i.e a v8 powered car that to me looks so close to a Miata it might as well be one.

    Pete
     
  12. GrahamS

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  13. millemiglia

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    quote from the website:
    "The cover is actually bolted to the engine such that as the engine moves, the cover moves enhancing the illusion that what they are seeing is really an authentic Lamborghini."

    This is exactly what makes it a crappy replica in my eyes, trying to make people think it is something it's not!

    /Peter
     
  14. ijvpet

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    WOW! I skimmed thru this thread - it took a while. Looks like passions running wild and clashing over what is right. We are all passionate about our cars. I too am a guy coming from both worlds. I had a 355. Loved it. Saw a GT40 MK1 and I really wanted one.
    Where can i find one? I could afford a "real" one. But it would probably be in sad shape. Where do you find one in Canada? If I could find one, the car has probably been raced and abused for the last 40 years. Under what condition would it be in? Would I get the enjoyment of my new "dream car" if the car needed a major resoration?
    Well, I started to look into the replicas. For me, to buy a replica, it really needed to be close. I would like to know how many people on this board would love a 250 GTO replica, with correct body, correct borrani GTO spec wire wheels, correct 250 spec 12cyl Ferrari motor with webbers, correct interior with proper gauges and steering wheel, etc....But built new. For me, I could accept that. I found a manufacturer (CAV) that can build a complete Gt40 to the spec that I wanted. I loved a certain gulf wide body spec car and am currently having an exact as possible replication of s/n1076 that I can. This car will have the same ford 302 engine with the same webbers, BRM wheels interior..... all the way down to the sponsorship decals of the period. This car will fulfill my GT40 "dream". There is nothing wrong with anyone trying to fulfill their dream. We all have passions. It's what gets us up in the morning. Its what makes us create. It would be impossible for most people on this board to own a real 250 GTO, but I'm sure that more than one person here would jump at the chance of an opportunity to own a great GTO replica.

    Oh, good for you FROG. I have a lot of repect for a guy who's driven by his passion and created something from it.
     
  15. PSk

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    The reason for your last statement (in quoted paragraph above) confounds me completely. Thus lets say you found a genuine GT40 Mk1 that obviously had been raced by REAL racers in REAL races and had REAL history and you look at it like it is somehow abused, no longer any good?

    I cannot understand that. That is what makes these cars so fncken awesome. Not the steel and plastic, etc. that make up the car, but the history and what they achieved and by whom.

    If the GT40 had sucked as a race car, I can tell you nobody would want one at all ... and there would not be any replicas.

    Thus a genuine, historied GT40 is way more interesting than any new thing that just is a few bits of steel and plastic. Even once you drive it and give it some history ... er, (to be polite) what you do with it will mean fnck nothing, 'cause its racing days are over.

    History is what makes a car ... not just the design, and that is why replicas pale in to insignificance. Yes I can see the alure of making a GT40 replica (one I would love to have myself ... and concrats on your one), but I would never dismiss an original old car as LESS worthy 'cause it has a bit of history.

    Even if it was crashed into a little ball of steel in a 60's race ... well it still has more to say than a replica.
    Pete
     
  16. ashsimmonds

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    but how many people want a replica as a piece of drivable art and as homage to something unattainable and precious, and how many want it so they can say they drive one?
     
  17. CMY

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    Pretty Close: http://www.cobracountry.com/monster/home.html

    -Chris
     
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  19. f355b

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    are you mad! buy it and burn it.
     
  20. tbakowsky

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    I would make a cool lawn ordament..or make the back end inot a couch for the garage..fron end..use it as a cool barbacue house
     
  21. ashsimmonds

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    #322 ashsimmonds, Jan 19, 2005
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    have fun with this 250 GTO chevy fellas.

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2030&item=4521093911&rd=1

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    THIS IS A PROFESSIONALLY REBUILT, RE-ENGINEERED FERRARI 250GTO REPLICA.

    THE ORIGINAL 250GTO SELLS FOR AROUND $3M USD AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONLY 8 LEFT IN THE WORLD

    THIS CAR IS PERFECT IN DETAIL WITH GENUINE BADGING AND PAINT
    AN ABSOLUTELY STUNNING VEHICLE FITTED WITH A 400cu in CHEV AND A ROCK SOLID 3 SPEED AUTO.

    GENUINE WIRE WHEELS WITH MASSIVE 255/60 TYRES

    RECARO SEATS FITTED WITH RACE HARNESS BELTS

    CUSTOM INTERIOR, FULLY REMOVABLE BRAND NEW SOFT TOP.

    EXCELLENT PAINT WORK AND A REAL PLEASURE TO DRIVE.

    MONGOOSE IMMOBILISER FITTED

    "VIN" AND MODIFICATION PLATES FITTED BY QUEENSLAND TRANSPORT

    INTERSTATE OR INTERNATIONAL DELIVERY CAN BE ARRANGED IF REQUIRED (AT BUYERS EXPENSE)
    EMAIL ME FOR MORE INFO


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    Date of Manufacture: Nov 2004
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  22. PSk

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    How can anybody be that thick! ... can they not even read at all.

    Surely if you supposedly had built a reasonable replica, you would have atleast refered to ONE (not two, just one ... to give them a chance) reference book.

    Discredited as a moron ... :D ... I do not understand how some get out of bed in the morning!
    Pete
     
  23. Muteki

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    Ok, I sifted through 17 pages of this, I really wish more of the pics would work, I am sure some of them are of some sad conversions. Now, I would like to comment on my feelings about kits. I personally don't give a rats-@ss if people like replicas or not. I have seen a couple that looked pretty good and I might be willing to drive, like a professionally built AC Cobra, but it better have a 427 Cobra Jet in it.

    Now, I guess I can understand that most of us can't afford a F40, F40, or an F60. I know I can't, at least not yet. Trust me, people might believe the car is real if its a really welt built kit done by professionals and motoring down the highway, but when a kid gets out it at the local KMart wearing a swatch.....People already know. I personally want an F50 and although the NSX conversion was a great job, its just not what I am looking for. I sure as hell wouldn't drive an F50 with a Fiero under the glass. I don't mean to offend anyone that has this conversion. It's just not me.

    I have a 308 GTS, its no where near the top of the line Ferrari made. But, most people don't know the difference. I am amazed at how many people think its a new model. WHAT IS IRRITATING, is when someone askes if its a kit and insists it is unless I show them the registration or motor as I grab the $100 from thier hands. I won't prove it unless people put thier money where thier mouth is. I have earned $300 from doing this, but its still irritating.

    Now my favorite car is the 288 GTO. I would just love to see it in my garage. I love the way it looks, based on my 308, I am sure the drive is incredible especially with the twin turbos. I could easily convert my 308 to a GTO replica and fool 99% of the popluation, because its a registered Ferrari and it has a Ferrari motor in it. BUT, I would not be fooling myself. It might look like the GTO, but not drive like one.

    Getting back to my point, I don't think most people care if people like kit cars or not. I think maybe they are like me and get irritated that people accuse the 'real deal' of being a kit car. I do think that they should be properly licensed through the companies that designed them or else they should not be availible for sale.

    Now here are some of my favorite kits that no one has posted them yet. I say favorite, because believe it or not it will fool some people, but they are obvious fakes.

    I had a friend try and tell me that Ferrari actually made this for some sultan:

    http://www.dupontregistry.com/search/srDetails.asp?itemid=148566&sessionkey={42E8E61E-709F-49C3-901E-1C9162ED351B}

    Now look closely at the area behind the rear window leading to the motor bay:

    http://www.dupontregistry.com/search/srDetails.asp?itemid=190140&sessionkey={42E8E61E-709F-49C3-901E-1C9162ED351B}

    Did they paint this car or just dye the plastic?

    http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=5665

    Star Wars anyone:

    http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=5371

    Don't ask:

    http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=5560

    http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=5491
     
  24. PSk

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    Has the nail been hit?, very relevant comment.

    I also thought the not fooling myself comment was another excellent point ... and really what it is all about for me.

    Pete
     

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