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  1. 285ferrari

    285ferrari Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Carb, If your guilty your guilty, Do you want him t o LIE in court and say he didn't do it. What do u mean by if he was in motion it's doubtful it's radar? If you wanna play u got to be willing to pay!!!!!
     
  2. Ike

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    We don't have points in Louisiana unless they changed something recently. Talk to the prosecuting atty in Miss. try to pay the ticket with nothing reported to La. Chances are La will never hear about it. Half of the time stuff isnt even reported between parishes.

    If miss. has something like article 894 then you could maybe use that.

    if the ticket is only $164 I could call the prosecuting atty and try to get it to where La finds out nothing and it stays off your record and then pay it by mail. You could probably set it up to where you send it directly to the prosecuting atty to make sure everything goes per your agreement.
     
  3. chrlsstyles

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    Well first off in court, chances are he wouldn't have to say a word. The lawyer will talk to the prosecutor. They will make a plea. I was just in court and all I did was answer Yes to the following questions: Where you operating a vehicle on said date? Were you operating a vehicle in the township of xxxx?
     
  4. 285ferrari

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    An attorney for a payable ticket? That's crazy. Maybe things are done differently here in MD. Never would I pay an attorney for a payable traffic citation, then again I'm the police so I know the law..HAHA
     
  5. Ike

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    I have always used attornies for payable tickets because they always work out something for me to where there is no record of the ticket, get me a much smaller fine, and my insurance never goes up. To me it is worth the extra costs involved. The judge has always deep-sixed the ticket for me and told me that when buying insurance I can tell them I've never gotten a ticket.
     
  6. 285ferrari

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    Yea-- It's called PBJ-Probation Before Judgement. Here in MD your first one or two are usually freebies anyway. After that your ass is the judges Attorney or not.An attorney can not do anything for you that you can't do yourself, for Payable citations. This is the case in MD, can't speak for other jurisdictions.
     
  7. tvrfreak

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    He doesn't have to lie. He simply does not have to admit to anything. It's up to the prosecution to [size=+1]prove beyond a reasonable doubt[/size] that he's guilty of whatever they are charging him with.
     
  8. tvrfreak

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    [size=+1]Finally! Someone with common sense. Watch and learn.[/size]
     
  9. Artherd

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    [size=+2]Bad advice, but, consider the source![/size]

    Attorneys not only know the law, but have special pull and privlige with the ruling class. Ooops, I mean the Judges and DAs.
     
  10. Artherd

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    Are you in third grade? DAMN RIGHT I want him to lie! Have you ever been to a court of any kind? Best liar wins.
     
  11. 285ferrari

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    If you select to have a trial, then you will have to state your case. Hence admission or denial. If you don't then you plead guilty and your right you don't have to say anything, except I'M GUILTY, then no need to admit. It's pretty clear alot of people agree with you, but I will never recommend someone pay $300.00 for an attorney for a $75.00 ticket that they will probably get a slap on the wrist for anyway. I guess every situation is different, if you have multiple violations already and a few points then yes it would be beneficial to get a lawyer. Talking only about your average citizen , who has a clean record or maybe one ticket in a 3 or 4 year period--stupid to waste your money with an attorney. Just my opinion from being in court 4 or 5 times a month for the last 10 years as a police officer in the Traffic Operations Unit.
     
  12. WILLIAM H

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    Tell them you are a friend of Franco's :) and buy a V1 radar detector ASAP

    You will Definately need a lawyer for this, try & plea bargain it down & save some points & $

    Good Luck
     
  13. Ike

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    There is no third time. Thats why it is such a favor to have the judge deep-six the ticket. It is if it never happened. So next time it is your first ticket ever. They can not hold the previous tickets against you if they didn't happen.
     
  14. Ike

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    If youlawyers meet with the judge and ADA and come to an agreement before hand when you go into court you are there for something completely different than a speeding ticket. In the case of one of my friends he went in and entered a plea of no contest on an inspection sticker charge. The judge gave him a $20 fine + court costs. Sure it cost about the same as paying the ticket but there is absolutely no ticket to be found so......
     
  15. Artherd

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    Typical cop attitude, it's not YOUR record, just that of some pesant, so what's it matter, right?
     
  16. Ike

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    This thread reminds me of a class I had two semesters ago. It was my Intro to Business Law class. I had to sit through court for a few cases and write papers on them with the facts presented during the case and the outcome of it and my opinion of it all.

    I had an hour to kill before I had to be in court so I went in to an adjacent courtroom. They were hearing all kinds of minor stuff like disturbing the peace, simple possesion, and traffic tickets. After about 30 minutes of the same cop being there for case after case of traffic fines the judge turns to him tells him he really needs to find better things to do than stopping speeders. All of the ADA's just started laughing. That was the funniest thing I've seen so far.
     
  17. Artherd

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    Awesome.
     
  18. Ike

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    I'm done with the debate. Back to the topic.

    Jonathan,

    Since it is out of state I don't know if it will do anything to your record in Louisiana. I don't know how that works. I would at least ask an attorney about this. Since you are out of state I think the ADA would work with you about keeping it off of your record/insurance if you agree to give them their money. If you want to fight it or get it reduced then I would talk to an atty that has experience with that court and the particular ADA that would prosecute this.

    Good Luck and buy a good radar detector and laser jammer for your future travels.
     
  19. lwpat

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    This is typical of the bad advice that you can find on a public forum. Of course the officer is going to tell you to just pay the ticket. That means that you plead guilty. Nowhere does prompt payment prevent notification to your home state. It depends on the laws of the state where you received the speeding ticket and the laws of your home state and how the violation is entered by the court.

    In general all speeding tickets are reported back to your home state and entered just as if you received the ticket in your home state. There are numerous exceptions so the only way to really know is to contact the DMV of the state where you received the ticket and the DMV of your home state. Most officers have no idea how your state will report the speeding ticket or if it will result in points. In additon there are states without a point system and I believe that Louisiana is one of them.

    If you can show for court they will probably reduce the fine and the violation so this will help you on your insurance premiums. If you can't show then retain an attorney who will negotiate a reduction for you. Most insurance companies do not pull your driving record every year so this one ticket may not even effect your insurance. Your concern is the next speeding ticket and what two of them will do to your premiums. Always fight the first one in case you lose the second.

    lwpat
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  20. Steve King

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    In NY you loose your licence fo any speeding ticket 20mph over the limit. Also most patrol cars have 2 fixed radar guns , a radar detector detector and a laser gun. And last they can detect on coming and going away speeds while their car is moving. Got my last speeding ticket in 1962 for 40mph in a 30 and paid $35 fine and went to driver school. Enjoy the ride
     
  21. 285ferrari

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    I guess we found someone here who doesn't like the police. Had too many tickets in the past??? But you would be the first one screaming for our help if you need it. Let me guess cops are only good when they benefit you! With that attitude no wonder you probably get tickets, attitude goes along way when I first speak to you after being stopped.
     
  22. Artherd

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    Then you are a lousy cop. Your job is not to grade people on the basis of their attitude, but simply to enforce the law. It doesn't matter if the person you pull over has thirtytwo body piercings and smells bad and doesn't address you politiely. It is not your job to teach people manners. All that matters is whether they broke the law or not. You aren't tasked with grading people on their attitude. Enforcing the law should not be dependent on someone's attitude.

    And before go on about my attitude, I am let off 90% of the time because I am very polite and courteous (without grovelling). Usually they are addressing me as "sir" by the end of the encounter. Anyone can play games.
     
  23. 285ferrari

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    What makes you mad is that I have discretion in my job. I said nothing about LOOKS did I. I said attitude. If I stop you and your an ******* your are probably getting a ticket. I show all persons I stop the same respect I would want. No matter about color, looks , etc. If your respectfull to me as I am to you then alot of times I write a warning. If you come off as an ******* --Well then that's my discretion to write or not. And If you have the attitude in the real world as you have on here, you would never get a break from a cop. Or your the type who kiss ass when I'm standing there and then calls me a name AFTER I leave.
     
  24. Artherd

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    No, your misuse of that discretioin makes me mad. But don't worry, I know how to handle dick cops in real life and yeah, you bet I act sweet as can be in front of them (respectful without asslicking) so I can get the warning. But rest assured I am giving you the finger with both hands behind your back. And you don't even want to know the thoughts in my head...

    Next time you have some bad advice, post it on a cop forum, not here.
     
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