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Discussion in 'Motorcycles & Boats' started by true, Apr 20, 2004.

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  1. true

    true Guest

    I may have started a similar thread on the old board, but looking for fresh rider's opinions. I want to get a cycle that I can ride both on-road and off-road. I would probably ride 80% street, and 20% off-road. I want something I can drive down to the local ponds and have no problems getting around some dirt/rock hills etc.. I am a die-hard Honda fanatic, so I think it's pretty obvious the XR650L is for me. Unfortunately, here in the midwest they must not sell more then a handful! I have never found a shop that has one in stock, and the few that were listed on cycletrader were more then I wanted to spend so I haven't bothered looking at them. I know there are quite a few fierce cometitors that claim to have a 'street' advantage, but I think my love for Honda racing would outweigh this advantage.

    So the question remains, can anyone recommend a bike that may be better suited for my needs other then the XR650L, and is there a better way to try and locate one other then cycletrader.com? Thanks!
     
  2. PCH

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    How about the KTM or BMWGS
     
  3. UroTrash

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    How tall are you? The Honda is a stretch. There does not seem to be much after market support for them.

    From a really practical stand point, a Suzuki DR-Z400S might be a good choice, 291 pounds, cheap, well made, tons of after market stuff.

    I just sold one on eBay because my neck simply could no longer take jolts, other wise I would have kept it.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2465152964&category=50027
     
  4. true

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    I'm 6'3", so I think I should be able to handle the Honda fine. I know it probably has the tallest height compared to its competitors. The BMW is nice, but I'm looking to spend less then 3,000, so a mid to late 90's bike is what I'll probably end up with. I checked out the KTM site and they have so many bikes, I couldn't tell which were street legal! These bikes are probably harder to find used the the XR650L.

    Mdstrib, was your DR-Z400S proven a reliable bike? I have added that to the list so now am considering Kawasaki KLX650, Honda XR650L, and the Suzuki DR-Z400S. Any more comments would be appreciated.
     
  5. UroTrash

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    Reputation says reliable, I only kept it 400 miles, no probs but not enough miles to say. If you are tall the Honda is great. Can't break them. Can't go wrong with that IMHO.
     
  6. sjb509

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    Other than the ratio of street/dirt, it will make a big difference what type of street/dirt riding you're doing. If you're climbing hills or doing anything other than trails, the big bikes like the XR650L are incredibly heavy (300+ lbs) and will wear you out very quickly. If you plan on riding regularly on the interstate, forget any single-cylinder DP bike, it will vibrate you to death at 80 mph.

    What about a used XR400, and put a street-legal kit on it? Lighter, reliable, and probably cheaper.

    http://www.xrsonly.com/html/street_legal.html
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  7. UroTrash

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    Street legal kits are rapidly going the way of the dinosaur, last year you could do it in NC, not this year, and I understand the same in California. I'd be really careful getting a wad of dollars in a conversion and have the state DOT say NO!


    Otherwise, XR400 or CFR 450 would be GREAT choice!
     
  8. EspritSE

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    My next setup may be....

    http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/UnitImage.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&cid=7&mid=209&iid=4366

    Then buy this....

    https://www.bajadesigns.com/bajadesigns/ecomm/mainframe.jsp?login=YES

    I currently have a 98xr400rw, with the bajadesigns kit. Quality parts and people. I use it probably 60%off-road and 40%on. Suspension is a little outdated though. Pulls like a tractor up loose hills. and of course the Honda reliability. (except for those cheap a** footpegs!!!)

    Craig

    BTW- the xr650l is a pig
     
  9. sjb509

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    One thing I didn't consider was the emissions test if you are in a metro area. It might be harder with an off-road-only bike. As time goes by I get used to living in a smaller town where you could probably get a passing inspection for anything if you know the right people.
     
  10. Texas Forever

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    This might be more than you want to spend, but KTM has a V-Twin 950cc bike that I have been watching for a while.
     
  11. true

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    Thanks for the replies everyone. DrTax, that bike is slightly out of what I want to spend. :) I think I need to stick with an OEM street legal dualsport as, unfortunately (or maybe fortunately for the envirionment), I am required to do emmisions testing on my vehicles. I do live somewhat in a country type area though, so my off-road riding will be limited to dirt roads and weak trails. No ruts, jumps, etc.. I also understand the XR650L is a bit heavy compared to 'true' dirtbikes, but wouldn't that make it a bit more stable on-road? I would imagine the fastest I will ever go is 65mph.

    My goal is to be able grab a fine cigar, hop on the dirtbike and cruise a couple miles down country roads to the local fishing ponds. The places I fish are 'off the beaten path', so I have to be able to drive on the road to get there, but then drive up the curb and travel a ways back through prairie style land.
     
  12. Paul Vincent

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    If you never need to go faster than 65 in and around greater Chicagoland, you'll be very lucky. For that reason alone, I'd get a bike that could do eighty all day (even if you'd only need it for a few minutes). Believe me, I've been riding bikes in the Chicagoland area for almost forty years, and I would never again want to be limited to 65 mph (first bike was good for short bursts to app. 65).
     
  13. true

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    #13 true, Feb 27, 2005
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  14. rloewy

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    Cool bike, these Honda singles might be the best all-around bikes. I used to have an old NX650 - it was a great bike. Wish I never sold it.
     

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