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  1. Ricambi America

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    #1 Ricambi America, Mar 18, 2005
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    Does anyone have x-reference for a Baldwin BF-661? I haven't been able to post these on my site, but I've got 10+ of them but don't know where they belong. BF661 has been discontinued by Baldwin by all accounts. Could this be 308QV ?

    Thanks in advance for any help you might offer!

    Best,
    Daniel

    p.s. I'll GIVE one away to the person who correctly identifies (and needs) one.
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  2. thecarreaper

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    #2 thecarreaper, Mar 18, 2005
    i dunno but i ordered 4 Baldwin fuel filters for the carb 308 and they are on super-intergalactic backorder. i am stocking stuff as i plan to have a few more of these here Ferrari cars :) . anybody know another source for the Baldwin fuel filters for the carb 308 ? the local guys are a big help, they were really nice and have no clue why the filters are not in.
     
  3. LarryS

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    #3 LarryS, Mar 18, 2005
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    I have a new fuel filter for 84 308gts qv, It's F of UK part number 117792, Bosch F5601 (box lists Fram G3744, Hengst H84WK01, Knecht KL30, Mann WK853, Motorcraft EFG32). It's 150mm long (without adapter yours has), 81mm dia @ center, seems like 12mm fitting @ rolled seam end and 14mm @ other end. Hope that helps.
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  4. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    #4 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, Mar 18, 2005
    What's wrong with Bosch? You can't ever really go wrong with a Bosch product so what makes the Baldwin better. (I use the Baldwin oil filters)
     
  5. wcelliot

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    #5 wcelliot, Mar 18, 2005
    I recently ordered mine (for a carb 308) from http://www.adiesel.com/ and got it with no problem. Then the dog ate it (no, really!) and I ordered and received another with no problem.

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  6. Peter

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    #6 Peter, Mar 19, 2005
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    Funny, its not listed in their latest "Obsoletes" catalogue, but when I searched for it at Baldwin's site, it could not find it. The closest thing in their Obsoletes catalogue is the BF660 and it is replaced with BF1179.

    Baldwin doesn't make 308 carb fuel filters. I've checked ALL of their catalogues. Only the air and oil filters.

    FWIW, in my notes, I have written down that 308's which have two fuel filters (1980?) use Baldwin BF1177. If you look that up at their site and check the specs of that filter, does it match or come close to the BF661?
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  7. Ricambi America

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    #7 Ricambi America, Mar 19, 2005
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    Doc -

    There's nothing wrong with Bosch at all. I've got these filters, and I'm just trying to see if anyone needs one. Moreover, every fuel filter I've sold thus far at Ricambi has been a Bosch unit, simply because that's what is lining my shelves and I didn't know how to classify these Baldwins.

    Baldwins are so good looking, don't you think??? (See below)


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  8. Ricambi America

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    #8 Ricambi America, Mar 19, 2005
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    Peter -

    Good catch.... but check out this one... from the Google Archives:
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    #9 dm_n_stuff, Mar 19, 2005
    Daniel

    Microlite In-Line Fuel Filter
    Fits:Audi, Ferrari, Volkswagen, Volvo Automotive
    Replaces:Audi 893133511; Ferrari 117792; Volks. 447133511; Volvo 13895628 - OBSOLETE

    Fuel filter TR according to Ferrari UK website, and 308 apparently.

    And, nope, don't have a TR, so You'll have to send me the car, and the filter.

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  10. thecarreaper

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    #10 thecarreaper, Mar 19, 2005

    Peter the Baldwin part numbers for the carb 308's are PF834, ( FISPA type), and PF866 ( Fiamm type), which is what i have, and is more common. my former carb 308gts used the pf866 also and i replaced it before selling the car.
     
  11. tifosi013

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    #11 tifosi013, Mar 19, 2005
    Daniel;

    Filter replaces Ferrari #117792 on Bosch F.I. cars. Fits TR, 308, and Mondials according to interchange. Also crosses to Fram #G-3744 and Wix #33279 if anyone's ever in a pinch.

    Can't comment on the aesthetics, however.

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  12. Ricambi America

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    #12 Ricambi America, Mar 19, 2005
    Excellent first post! Great detail, and much appreciated. If you're in need of a filter, drop me a PM and it's yours. In the meantime, I'll post it into the correct categories.

    Welcome to FerrariChat. Pop some popcorn, pull up a chair... Fchat will likely destroy your life (like most of us)


    Many thanks!

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  13. miked

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    #13 miked, Mar 19, 2005
    Daniel
    The photo of BF-661 looks exactly like the fuel filter on my 1987 Audi 5000 CS Quattro which, like the 308i/QV, uses the CIS system. The dimentions are the same as "mcguy" reported, 81mm body OD, 150mm long w/o adapter (add 20mm for the adapter which my filter has, it's a 14mm inlet thread BTW) and a 12mm outlet thread.
    The filter that I have is a Bosch, the box reads #71044, the filter reads
    0 450 905 133. The box also has the number
    0 450 905 133-85E on the side.
    I hope this helps
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  14. Peter

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    #14 Peter, Mar 21, 2005
    Thanks!
     
  15. Peter

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    #15 Peter, Mar 21, 2005
    Thanks for posting those P/N's. I'll have to check into that later...
     

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