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Fire Extinguisher location on a Boxer

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by PINNIN512, Apr 7, 2005.

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  1. PINNIN512

    PINNIN512 Formula 3

    Aug 30, 2002
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    I just purchased a new Fire Extinguisher from one of our sponsers - H3R and very pleased with the unit - hope i never use it. I have a Boxer and looking for ideas where to mount . Pictures would be great. Also what type of hardware did you use for mounting and did you drill holes in your car???

    Thanks,
    Dave
     
  2. Mike C

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    This style of mount would probably work, though your dimensions might need to be slightly different: www.tradetutor.com/raceprep/
     
  3. Darolls

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    I just take a piece of extruded aluminumm 1/8"x1", cut it to length at about 6" and attach it, in a T (centered on the bracket) to the bottom of the bracket that should come with the extinguisher.

    I paint it the colour of the bracket, or the carpet, and keep it in front of the drivers seat.

    Don't permanently attach it to the floor, the cross piece keeps the extinguisher from rolling around.

    If the worst happens, you don't need to detach anything. Just pick up the whole unit, bracket and all, and go for it.
     
  4. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
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    Not a good idea -- if you are ever in an accident and you have someone in the passenger seat, they're going to get their ankles broken. And an "umounted" setup like you describe is DEFINITELY not acceptable if you ever put your car on the track.
     
  5. pma1010

    pma1010 F1 Rookie

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    Agree, it'll become a missile in the event of something bad happening. I seem to recall that a 30lb object releases at 1 ton when subjected to a 30 mph impact, so that object might be something like 1000 lbs. Enough to kill you/break something in the worst case.

    While it is a good precaution, in reality you are going to find it hard to put out a fire with it. Remember, you've got to turn off ignition, grab the extinguisher, exit the vehicle, put the extinguisher down, release the trunk latch, haul up the trunk (whoosh with more air)... You get the pic. I think fuel burns at 1200 degrees. If you are serious, a plumbed in fire system is the way to go (the tank can be well hidden) with either a pull release or a electric firing option. If you want to go hand held, make sure you secure it well and can access it. The aluminum "U" bracket should be welded or bolted up with good quality hardware.

    Lecture over. Sorry.
    P
     
  6. Murph

    Murph Formula 3

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    What's up Dave? You start smoking again:D
     
  7. bwassam

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    I have a US '77 GTB. I mounted a fire suppression unit in the rear of the car. I put the cylinder on the left rear corner of the car in the luggage compartment. I ran a copper line to each end of the engine and put the pull toggle in the left rear corner of the people tank above my left shoulder. If I have an engine fire I can pull the pin and then pull the toggle on my way out of the car.

    Also, I put a switch for the fuel pump in an un-noticable location to stop the flow of fuel. Also the switch will allow the car to run about a quarter mile before it dies for lack of fuel if someone either car jacks you or steals it. This way when the car stops, they are far enough away from you that you'll be safe. This is particularly handy when you take the car out for dinner.

    Bob Wassam
     
  8. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    are we talking about a bottle..or a real race quality supression system?

    btw, the rules have change in nascar and as such, i have several nascar style halon systems. seriously rad!!! let me know if there is interest?
     
  9. GaryReed

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    #9 GaryReed, Apr 8, 2005
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    Dave,

    A good friend of mine made a custom bracket for my Boxer and he has made a bunch of brackets to fit 308/328/348s, etc.. for other people on FChat.

    Here's a couple of photos. He uses 1/8" aluminum sheeting with aluminum angle brackets and stainless steel screws to bolt it all together. Since the Boxer seat rails have "horizontal" mounting bolts instead of vertical (308/328) they are a bit more complicated to construct compared to 308/328 versions.

    Send me a PM if you would like his email address.

    To install the bracket, you simply remove the two allen head bolts from the ends of the passenger seat rails, put the bracket in place and replace the bolts.

    I'm very happy with mine and it's worked great for over a year now, with no problems.
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  10. Darolls

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    True, but anything else not permanently mounted in the vehicle will also become a 'missile'.

    Fact is, if I had a fire, I'd let it burn.

    If I'm tracking the car, that's a different story.
     
  11. pma1010

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    I don't have anything loose that can move around in the cabin (see below). I don't know the record of a plumbed in fire suppression system saving a car, but I would think it is quite good. It is likely overkill on the injected cars. On a carb car, well, I think it is good insurance. For me, I also want to be able to trigger it if for some reason I can't exit the vehicle.

    FYI, one of the neatest installs I saw had the (fire-) bottle in the front compartment with tubing running into the cell and into the engine bay. Only visible signs were the nozzle in the cabin (discreet) and the (less discreet) dump trigger.

    On missiles, we have a 168lb newfoundland (dog). I hit the brakes hard in the MDX. He was in the 3rd row (of seats) and ended up "grinning" at me from behind the passenger seat. Thankfully no children in the car at the time.
    Philip
     
  12. parkerfe

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    A few months back there was an episode of Fifth Gear that ran a test on what lose objects in a car can do in a 30mph impact. It was unbelievable. They even left some items in the trunk that crashed through the back seats into the passenger compartment in a 45mph head on crash. Keep all you cars clear of clutter as it can kill you under the wrong circumstances !
     

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