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  1. Vito

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    Does any one know of a ready source & price for the copper crush gasket/washer that is used on the oil pan drain plug for a 1982 308/Mondial motor? I'd like to have several on hand when it's time for oil changes. Also, is this the same gasket/washer that is used for other drain plugs such as the gear box drain? Thanks for your help with this search.
     
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  3. Mike C

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    RicambiAmerica has them for 58 cents each. Click Here.
     
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  6. yelcab

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    Global metrics, Belmont, CA.
     
  7. Verell

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    BTW, all 3 sumps (oil,trans, & xfer case) all take the same washer: 21mm ID.

    The Stat-O-Seal is a fancy brand name for a fairly common 'sealing washer' or 'O-ring washer'. While metric sizes are scarce, given the large flats on the sump covers & heads, I think a 7/8" sealing washer would work fine.

    Google turned up a lot of hits...
     
  8. pma1010

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    My NAPA stocked the Cu washers. Verell, I thought 22mm rather than 21?
     
  9. snj5

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    In antique aircraft, I remember many folks re-annealing copper crush washers by heating them up very high, then flash cooling them in water.
    Would this work for these?
     
  10. Steve Magnusson

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    Yes, but the final softness is not significantly dependent on the quench rate for Cu materials -- so water or air cool is OK.

    The key word in your post Russ is "antique". I.e., if I don't have a new one easily available, I'd reanneal myself -- but by the time you hassle with that, and cleaning-up the oxide film, buying a fresh handful from Global Metrics or the odd one or two from any F parts supplier (even for $1 each) seems smarter IMO/E.

    22 mm ID x 27 mm OD x 1.5 mm thick Cu is the "308" engine and gearbox oil size just for other's reference (since it hasn't come up lately, and using "search" seems to be so difficult ;)). I know I wouldn't mind finding an extra 5 or 10 in the toolkit so getting 20~50 at a time from Global Metrics was my ex-MO. The TR is even worse -- more sizes, some difficult sizes, and more places -- so I still shop Global Metrics quite often even from CO.
     
  11. matteo

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    I could see doing this in a pinch but at 1.00 or less, why bother?
     
  12. Verell

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    I could be off a mm, don't have a spec, so used calipers to measure the thread ODs of my plugs & a couple of old washers that I keep around for reference. Definitely measured 21mm.

    Either 21mm or 22mm should work fine as the shoulders are pretty large on both the plug & hole.

    BTW, in a pinch I've just used an o-ring instead of a crush washer & avoided crushing/pinching it by tightening the plug finger tight using a 1/2" drive allen socket. Back then I didn't know the annealing trick. Guess the risk is that the plug might vibrate loose s it isn't torqued down.
     

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