Yeah and us sober people think the drunk people are annoying I have never drank before, I've been to parties and such and been offered, but I think in this day and age there are so many non-drinkers out there most people respect it and don't bother us much, almost like smoking, you don't see smokers totally pressuring non-smokers to light up anymore.
I've had too much to drink tonight to read through all 4 pages but I did read this last page and noticed some posts with people saying they have never had a drink and that always amazed me. I can see if someone drinks and they don't like it and then not drinking but for you guys that have never even tried any kind of alchoholic drink aren't you the least bit curious as to what all the diffrent beers, wine and hard liquors, mixed drinks taste like and what it feels like to be buzzed or drunk?
I always equated it to a 400lb chick being a virgin 'by choice'.. Slightly elitist with a completely ignorant foundation. Personally, I don't form an opinion on something until I've looked at it from every different angle and nor would I be proud to state my position on something that I've never had first-hand experience with. I just refuse to take someone else's word for it, and I've made some educational mistakes because of that. It would be a shame to be taking that last breath and think "I should've ..." -Chris
I like that....I used mine up in the first 49. Regarding people who have never taken a drink or have once or twice only -- alcohol just doesn't agree with with some people at all. There are also people who are truly asexual -- have little or no sex drive.
If you don't drink to make it a social statement, you have other social/psychological issues that need work. The last thing that will come up at a someone's eulogy is if you avoided alcohol or not. See my drift? The only one who cares if you drink or not is yourself. Self improvement is masturbation. Now, self destruction... Edit - here's another quote.. A woman drove me to drink and I never stopped to thank her.
LOL This is a perfect example against (in my case anyways) drinking, a clear head can always comprehend better.
Not to worry.. I'm about to go out for a little Sunday evening entertainment where the beer flows like.. well, beer. Incoherent posts and lewd pictures to follow upon my return! -Chris
For some reason I got a mental image of Gentry's "Lotion Depot" just now.. It's gonna take another round to wash that out! C.
Curious to drink? No. Equating it with a 400 lb virgin? Do you think that it's that challenging to walk into a grocery or liquor store and hand over $8? Clearly, if it's that hard for you then you shouldn't be spending your money on alcohol.
I am 20 years old, and I go to Washington and Lee University - one of the heaviest drinking colleges in the nation. I'm also a member of a fraternity and my choice to not drink has had an infintessimal effect, if any, on my life here. I have plenty of friends that drink their hearts content (in fact, all of them have been trashed every day the past week), and it doesn't matter. I don't care that they drink and they don't care that I don't drink. We all still have a great time together and we all enjoy listening to the same stories about what we've done. Sure, some of my fraternity brothers that I'm not as close to get curious every once in a while as to why I don't drink, and I just tell them that I don't really have any desire to. They are perfectly happy with that and they respect me and my decision. I have never felt pressured to drink. Even during pledgeship when the brothers put a keg in front of my pledge class (there are 11 of us) and told us to finish it, noone ever tried to get me to take a drink. I love the fact that people at this school respect my decision - hell, I've earned a lot of respect because of it. Sure, it may put the brakes on the social life at parties a little, but I've got my close friends, and thats all I really care about. I'm not one for having a huge social network and having 200 different phone numbers programmed into my cell phone. I don't get laid as easily, but I'm not sure I'd want to have sex with a girl thats so easy she'll open her legs in one night anyway. I'll find the perfect girl eventually. As to ever trying it... I'm probably going to drink on my 21st birthday in December for celebration and all, but that is really going to be the only time I'll ever drink aside from maybe some wine at romantic dinners and such. - Rehash of everything thats already been said over. -- Adam
Been there, done that, see my post on pg 3. But I just want to say stick to your guns, I did and am so thankful for it.
Point taken, however I doubt you could do either of the above in public without facing some sort of consequence. We're discussing a social norm here, if you'd like to delve into the human psyche a bit deeper I'm sure we can get into all sorts of great topics such as necrophilia, abortion, capital punishment, etc but I think most of us would prefer to stick to the topic at hand and avoid a circular discussion that will lead absolutely nowhere. To use your example, I don't proclaim that I'm a better person because I've never slept with a man (or sheep). I don't know anything about either, and nor have I tried to pass judgment on anyone who has engaged in such acts- maybe that's where we differ. I do have first-hand experience with both sides of the coin in this case, whereas you assume to. I respect your decision to avoid alcohol, but my comments were meant to touch a nerve and figure out exactly what motivated this decision. You got me, I'm curious.. was it alcoholic parents, a religious consideration or that you simply wanted to reach a (seemingly) higher moral ground than the rest of society? I'm not saying that anyone is right or wrong, but I was pointing out that sometimes people hold onto beliefs after they've outlasted a purpose. The pendulum usually swings to both extremes early on in life, but generally finds itself somewhere in the middle further down the line- I'm curious why it's stuck to one side in this case. Just as I wouldn't want a 45 year-old virgin giving me marriage advice, I wouldn't want someone who's never had a drink telling me it's a bad idea. Furthermore, you should be more curious about my own up's & down's with alcohol (even to fuel your own viewpoint) than I should be with your choice to not consume it. -Chris
Thank you Frances. Appreciate the info. Me and you are having 7up at dinner! Wait, I don't drink soda either Sherpa Thanks bro. I got some bike questions as well, will forward via PM.
My post this morning was more of a not quite awake yet 6AM attempt at a joke. I do understand your point of first needing to go thru that drinking period before you make a decision. I still occasionally have a drink or two but for the most part just decided after many years of drinking, often to excess, I was tired of it and once I stopped I realized how great it was to remember the night before, not wake up feeling crappy and many other advantages that come with abstaining. Now if I could just quit cigarettes, some looks I get when lighting up are worse than when falling down drunk
After thinking more about why I don't drink anymore I remembered one of the great benefits I have gotten from it. About 12 years ago at a time I had just been court ordered to have no alcohol I was invited to a party on a friends boat. Everybody was pretty hammered except one really hot girl who did not drink, since I also was not drinking we spent quite a lot of time talking and found it funny watching all the drunk guys hit on her. That girl is now my wife and mother of our beautiful 6 year old daughter. So is funny to think now how different my life would be today if I had not been sober that night
Probably many, many answers to this. Courage and fear become bigger issues, and how honestly one confronts these questions would have a big impact on the experience and the rate one evolves in the realms of self-respect and communication skills. A person might well ask, "Is alchohol or any other substance really necessary?" A fortunate person will discover that there's much more depth to the emotional side of sex.