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Discussion in '348/355' started by mdfer360, May 6, 2005.

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  1. mdfer360

    mdfer360 Rookie

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    #1 mdfer360, May 6, 2005
    My 348 has recently been playing up in the gear changing department - I've problem engaging second gear even when the car is fully warmed up. Someone has suggested that it could be a syncro problem.

    Has anyone else had the same experience? What can be done and how big the job is?

    Cheers.
     
  2. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #2 ernie, May 7, 2005
    I have been having the same type problem. Mine doesn't wanna get into 5th at freeway speed, and it also doesn't wanna get into, or out of 1st. I think it's the syncros. I changed the gearbox oil and found bits of metal, about the size of your finger nail, in it. So something is busted. I'm gonna rebuild it when I get the gumption to do it. But right now I'm so irritated with the car I'm letting it sit for a few months.

    As for your problem it could be the syncros. But before you go that far, make sure that your shift cables are adjusted properly. I spent three days making sure mine were just right, before I found the metal bits in the oil.
     
  3. mdfer360

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    #3 mdfer360, May 7, 2005
    Apart from changing up or down to 2nd, the other gears seem to work fine. When the car is at a stand-still, it also works ok.

    Is changing/fixing the syncros a big job?
     
  4. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #4 fatbillybob, May 7, 2005

    To some yes. Gearbox out. Take GB apart both shafts out... Can you double clutch into or heal toe into 2nd?
     
  5. mdfer360

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    #5 mdfer360, May 7, 2005
    Double clutching works from time to time, but the sure way of getting into second gear is when the car is at a standstill. When it is in motion, it's mostly hit or miss - sometime effortlessly but often nigh impossible.

    Why is it that only the 2nd gear is affected, not the others?
     
  6. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

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    #6 Steve King, May 7, 2005
    I'd 1st change the gear oil . Either Red Line or Mobile 1 and then see if it makes a difference. Also check the old oil to see if you've got any metal in it.
     
  7. mdfer360

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    #7 mdfer360, May 7, 2005
    Good suggestion. I've emptied the old oil and found it to be clear and free of any foreign particles.

    Any does it indicate if I did find any metal particles?
    Also, does anyone know what the characteristics of a typical syncro failure are?
     
  8. mdfer360

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    #8 mdfer360, May 8, 2005
    how could i tell whether it's syncro problem or a cable adjustment problem?
     
  9. evansp60

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    #9 evansp60, May 8, 2005
    if a syncro is gone you'll still be able to shift into the gear, if the rpm is not matched you may get a grind.
    I would check you linkage first. It's cheaper!
     
  10. mdfer360

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    #10 mdfer360, May 9, 2005
    What is the optimal RPM for chaning into 2nd?
     

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