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F-15 Fighter and Testarossas at Langley AFB

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  1. Pantera

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    TexasMike thats cool your uncle owns a Corsair.

    BMWF1 thats badass i never would have thought they would sell F/A-18 to the public. For 14,000! If you have any info where can i get a fighter please send me a PM!. Im very interested. Im gonna be checkin my local scap yards.

    Puff/ its gonna be a while the model kit ran me about 100bucks and that was on sale. The kit is from a company known as Tamiya the scale is 1/32 so its gonna be big. Im currently putting the finishing touches on the Vic Viper fighter jet from Gradius V so sometime by next week im gonna start the buildup. When im done i will try and post pics of it.

    Its gonna be awsome maybe i will take a picture of it next to my Diablo and F50 models.
     
  2. TexasMike

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    Actually, the length of the F15 Eagle is 63ft 9in. The length of the F14 Tomcat is 62ft 6in, so the F15 is longer.
    The wingspan on the F15E is 42ft 10in and the wingspan on the F14 A,B & D Tomcat's is 64ft 2in. The swept wingspan on the Tomcats is 38ft 3in.
    The height on the F15E is 18ft 6in and the height on the Tomcats is 16ft 0in.
    The wingarea on the F15E is 608.0sq ft. The wingarea on the Tomcats is only 565.0sq ft, so the Tomcat is only larger in wingspan. The F15 is larger in all other dimensions. Just the facts...

    Oh yeah... the russian Sukhoi Su 27,30,33,35 & 37 are all larger than the F15's or the F14's but, that doesn't at all make them better.
     
  3. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    This was the auction on Ebay, but it was shut down so no one actually won. The plane was formerly a Blue Angel so they put up regular pictures of the plane for what it used to look like. The actual plane pictures are at the very bottom and it shows that it looks like it will take a lot to make airworth (they say $8 million). http://img245.echo.cx/img245/6663/mig29afa187gs.jpg

    This website now has it for sale, too. http://www.blueangels.org/Aircraft/Stick/FA18/973/973.htm
     
  4. TexasMike

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    It look's like a bargain to me. The original ones were $18million, and I have heard of people spending a whole lot more than $8million to restore a military aircraft.
     
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    Pictures are indeed real and not doctored :) --"ENZO" (my callsign) in pictures
     
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  7. TexasMike

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    Civilains will probably never be allowed to purchase retired operational F-15 aircraft. Now if for some reason in the future the government would, you'd have to be at least a billionaire to maintain it. The heat exchangers alone are probably about 25 grand a piece. The CSD's are 100g a piece and once they shell out, they fod out the heat exchangers, so there's 125g out of your pocket in parts. Then you have the engine fuel lines that leak, the engines that fod out, and the fuel cells that have to be replaced every 4 years that's 5 or 6 of those depending on which model of F-15. The wings leak fuel quite often....................
     
  9. e60

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    texas mike your right i wasnt saying the F14d isnt bigger i just said it was similar in size. as far as being a better plane the f15 is at the top of the tree as best fighter for now, but the su-37 is capable of manevoring (sorry for the spelling ) more than the eagle but then agian its not a combat operational aircraft. also does anbody know where i can find a typhoon model or a rafale d model in 1/48 or 1/32 thanx alot
     
  10. jimangle

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    The F-15 is a good jet, but the Su-37 smoked it in a semi-recent dogfight competition. The F-15 relies on Awacs during real combat, and the Su-37 doesn't. Also the Su-37 can target enemies through his hud that's built into his helmet. So he just has to look, and shoot.
     
  11. TexasMike

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    I don't know anything about the Su 37, just the dimensions. I was just saying the length of an aircraft isn't the main factor in performance or reliability.
     
  12. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Is the Su-37 based off the Berkut prototype (I think it was also called the Su-47). I think its forward swept wings look awesome! I can't believe they didn't put it on the Su-37 :( I'm waiting for a 1/48 model of the Berkut to come out so I can build it. I've been itching to build model planes again, I haven't done it in probably 10 years.
     
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    The Su37 is much more advanced than the F-15. remember the F15 was designed back in the early 90's while the Su37 was designed in the 90's so there's a big technology diffrence there. Thats like comparing a Lamborghini Countach to an Ferrari Enzo theres a major diffrence in technology&engineering.

    Now id like to see a Su37 take on a new F/A-22 Raptor lol! then we will see who gets toast.
     
  15. TexasMike

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    Mark, great pictures. About ten years ago I was camping in a valley and all of a sudden we all heard a load roar and rumble and just for a split second we saw an A-10 fly right over our heads. It was only 300 or 400 feet above the ground. It's my favorite airplane.
     
  16. AKS

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    I believe that the F-15 was designed in the late 60's early 70's.

    Edit: Yup. First flight 1972

    # The first F-15A flight was made on 27 July 1972, culminating one of the most successful aircraft development and procurement programs in Air Force history. After an accident-free test and evaluation period, the first aircraft was delivered to the Air Force on Novermber 14, 1974. In January 1976, the first Eagle destined for a combat squadron was delivered to the 1st Tactical Fighter Wing at Langley Air Force Base, Va. Three hundred and sixty-five F-15As were built before production of the F-15C began in 1978. In January 1982, the 48th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron at Langley Air Force Base became the first Air Force air defense squadron to transition to the F-15. After twenty years of service, the F-15A has recently been reassigned from active duty Air Force fighter squadrons to Air National Guard units. The F-15A is flown by Air National Guard squadrons in the states of Oregon, Missouri, Georgia, Louisiana, Hawaii, and Massachussets.
    # The first flight of the two-seat F-15B (formerly TF-15A) trainer was made in July 1973. The first F-15B Eagle was delivered in November 1974 to the 58th Tactical Training Wing, Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., where pilot training was accomplished in both F-15A and B aircraft. The F-15B incorporates a tandem seating configuration, with a second crewmember position aft of the pilot's seat. The primary purpose of the F-15B is aircrew training, with an instructor pilot occupying the rear seat while an upgrading pilot mans the front seat controls. The rear seat pilot has a full set of flight controls and can fly the aircraft throughout the envelope, including takeoff and landing. Even though space is sacrificed to accomodate the second crew member, the F-15B retains the same warfighting capability as the F-15A. In keeping with the trainer concept, however, the rear seat is not equipped with controls for the combat avionics and weaponry. In fact, the rear seat is not a mandatory crew position, and F-15Bs are often flown with empty rear cockpits.
    # The F-15C is an improved version of the original F-15A single-seat air superiority fighter. Additions incorporated in the F-15C include upgrades to avionics as well as increased internal fuel capacity and a higher allowable gross takeoff weight. The single-seat F-15C and two-seat F-15D models entered the Air Force inventory beginning in 1979. Kadena Air Base, Japan, received the first F-15C in September 1979. These new models have Production Eagle Package (PEP 2000) improvements, including 2,000 pounds (900 kilograms) of additional internal fuel, provision for carrying exterior conformal fuel tanks and increased maximum takeoff weight of up to 68,000 pounds (30,600 kilograms). Externally, the differences between the F-15A and F-15C are so slight as to make identification difficult; the only reliable indicator is the aircraft serial number. All F-15As have tail numbers starting with 73- through 77-, while F-15Cs have tail numbers beginning with 78- through 86-. The F-15C is the Air Force's primary air superiority fighter, serving with active duty units at Langley AFB, VA, Eglin AFB, FL, Mountain Home AFB, ID, Elmendorf AFB, AK, Tyndall AFB, FL, Nellis AFB, NV, Spangdahlem AB, Germany, Lakenheath AB, England and Kadena AB, Okinawa. The operational F-15C force structure is approximately 300 aircraft assigned to operational units. In the mid-1990s the F-15C experienced declining reliability indicators, primarily from three subsystems: radar, engines, and secondary structures. A complete retrofit of all three subsystems could be done for less than $3 billion.
    # The F-15D is a two-seat variant of the single-place F-15C. The primary purpose of the F-15D is aircrew training, with an instructor pilot occupying the rear seat while an upgrading pilot mans the front seat controls.

    From fas.org
     

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