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  1. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    damn this is cool ! my GTB is a low number for a 77steel car, and a mid range number for a 76. my emissisons tags say model year 1976, car was built on november of 76. these assembly line number may help shed some ltght on how the cars were numbered and put together. the Dino should be delivered in a few days and i will go over the car and see what i find. its a series one 1974.
     
  2. PerryJ

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    my car says,
    434 and a build date of March 85 (s/n 56585)
     
  3. sindo308qv

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    Tommy, I think my car finally has met her twin. I also have an '84 born in January,LOL! In black metallic too! The number under the chip appears to be an 02, could that be right? Serial #49597.
     
  4. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Ok - It's an assembly number but I am still wondering exactly what assembly it is numbering. Is it different for each model and does it start over for each year?

    Mine is #105 and was built Jan 30, 1984. It is a GTS. We know it is not the 105th Ferrari QV built (either B or S) because of the 83 model year before it. This would imply that Ferrari started the assembly numbering over again with the new 1984 model year.

    A previous post describes a #6 on a Feb 1984 GTB - built after my 105. This should tell us that Ferrari had a different number series for the GTB's. It is a low number for 3 or 4 months into the 84 model year but, considering the low number of GTB's built anyway, I suppose this could be possible. This would also imply that there are 1984 Boxers, 400's, and Mondials running around out there somewhere with #105 on them as well. It would be nice to see one from the same year that matches one of our 308's. If so it would confirm this possibility. ( Yes I doubt that Ferrari built 105 Boxers in in 84 due to the new TR but that is beside the point)

    So, I am assuming that this is indeed an assembly number that is stamped into each car as it is completed. Ferrari started with "1" for each model made AND started the numbering over again with #1 the next model year. This would mean that for 1984 there is a #50 308 GTB, 308GTS, and Mondial. For 1985 there was again a #50 308 GTB, 308 GTS, and Mondial and so on.

    Any thoughts...?
     
  5. rossofiorano355

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    #419
    1985 308 QV GTS
    Febuary 1985 build date
    VIN - 56441
     
  6. PerryJ

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    My mechanic said it could have started as a joke that some drunk italian ferrari worker did it just to screw with people, he wasn't serious but it's funny knowing some of the other things they have done ;)
     
  7. rossofiorano355

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    and I am:

    #419
    1985 308 QV GTS
    Febuary 1985 build date
    VIN - 56441

    Comparison:

    # difference - 15
    build date difference - one month
    VIN difference - 144

    What this means....I don't know
     
  8. branko

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    Mine is #962 for an '85' Euro 308 GTS QV, vin 55127. This does not add up. I have a later number with an earlier vin.
     
  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I wonder why, by 1985, Ferrari was already into the 400's by Feb and in 84 they were just into the 100's?

    I now officially have a new Ferrari trivia project - I WILL figure all of this out.
     
  10. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Now I am really confused. I guess we can scratch my first hypothesis.
     
  11. Mike C

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    Maybe we also have to add in Euro versus US versions versus RHD versions... in addition to the GTS versus GTB?
     
  12. ethans_dad

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    Ron and gang:
    " #419
    1985 308 QV GTS
    Febuary 1985 build date
    VIN - 56441

    Comparison:

    # difference - 15
    build date difference - one month
    VIN difference - 144

    What this means....I don't know"
    If we split the VIN difference by 2 for odd number assignments only, we get about 77 cars...possible right?
    My 85 GTS is number 55551. I'll head out to the garage later and get the build month and look for the assembly number too.

    Very interesting thread!

    regards,
    Steve
     
  13. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    With so many subcatagories I can just imagine Italian line workers running around screaming when they need and can't find their # stamp after someone else walked off with it over in the RHD Euro Mondial line.
     
  14. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    The way things are going I am afraid you'll find #16 on yours. If you do, someone else can take over my project...
     
  15. Darolls

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    Nope, it's just 6.
     
  16. Darolls

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    Sheesh, now I have a headache! :(
     
  17. gil308

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    #125 Built in Sept. 84...VIN 53697
     
  18. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Now this is really not making any sense anymore.
     
  19. ethans_dad

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    Hi Guys:
    Just inspected my 85 GTS and the construction number is 343. My build month is January 1985. I thought that there is a period in the calendar year that the factory stops production for a extended time; not sure how this factors into the equation, but I think we are trying to estimate the yearly production of each body type?
    Hope this helps.

    Steve
     
  20. barbo1

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    Mine is 308 GTS built July 84 #56, that would seem reasonable to assume that 56 were built for the 85 year starting in June?

    Maybe the Vin means nothing in this mystery?
     
  21. ethans_dad

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    "my car says,
    434 and a build date of March 85 (s/n 56585)"
    John's car was built 3 months after mine (55551) and 91 cars later. This adds up to 30 cars (GTS) a month. Of course, at the same time, GTB and other models would be on the production line too I would think.
    Any thoughts?
     
  22. gil308

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    Wait...do you hear that? It's my head exploding!

    I expect an official answer by 12 Noon on Tuesday (sometimes artificial deadlines inspire)...not just guessing what it could be :) Doc, get on it...after all, you started it.
     
  23. f360racer

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    I have #110 stamped on my 1983 GTSi with 46307 as the VIN with a May 1983 build date.

    Philip
     
  24. gil308

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    Built in Sept 84 as an 85 model year...does that help?
     
  25. ferrarifixer

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    Can anyone confrim what really is the build dates Ferrari quote? Are they the day the cars chassis frame build is completed, or is it when the chassis frame is first released from fabrication to the assembly plant, or is it when the first pieces of metal are fixed together to form the chassis in the beginning....

    As far as I know, the assy number only appears on the frame in one spot, but things like doors and h/lamp pods all have it to, as does most major trim bits like centre consoles, head linings and door trim.

    My point is, that Ferrari's build date quotes may be a different date to actual build commencement/completion.. And builds may have been delayed for any number of reasons so cars could queue jump quite easily I guess.
     

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