Really bad Ferrari crash in Malaysia

very sad news, driver got out and now has to live with this. feel very sorry for the 3 year old who was obviously on his fathers lap in the passenger seat. i hope speed wasn't a factor.

 

Terrible tragedy. Very sad.

 

my deepest condolence to his family!!
Kenny

 

New owner plus no skill....cant really feel anything other than

Do educate yourself if you want to buy a high performance car
Dun show off on public roads (especially when giving joy rides)

Unfortunate for the deceased but the driver was an IDIOT.

 

Ultimo,

Don't be too harsh in passing out judgement. I happen to know the story quite well from my friends in KL. Suffice to say that accidents do happen and the driver is a mature, quite disciplined person as told to me by reliable sources. Front tyre blew and not that many people who buys Ferraris know how to countersteer or opposite-lock their way out of trouble and especially in a mid-engined car when you lose it, you'd really lose it.

I feel sorry for him to have to live with the accident for the rest of his life and condolences to the family of the deceased and his 3 year old son.

Note : Malaysian 'B' roads, even though looks 'appetizing' to the eyes, are sometimes not 'clean' enough. Nails, bolts, splinters etc can be found on most corners and many are off-cambered. Exercise due caution.

 

I really wonder who is the idiot here

 

that's unbelievable

 

Hi Isk.

Nice to see you post.

I actually caught this news story a while back but didn't think that
it needed 'spreading' around.

fires are really the worst. I just hope that they were "out of it" when it
occured.

as for malaysian 'B' roads , as a rule , I always do a slow/moderate speed
recce first on any potential fast-road , before going balls out later. often
the bends are multiple apex or tighten as you enter (the worst). cars that
follow , i just tell them to watch the brake light and keep the line.

as for the tyre blowing , I have to say , that this is usually used as a
postscript-excuse for when the driver just losing the car due to , either
underestimating speed and/or overestimating talent. ie , to avoid a
charge of dangerous/reckless driving.

btw , we'll be in Sepang on the 3rd of July (2pm onwards). Come if you're
around.

cheers.

nb : also, if you're into driving fast , for goodness sakes , buy the best
tyres that you can afford (and then some) for your car. Apart from your
skill , they're often the thin line between a nicely caught oversteer and
the ditch , or worse.

 

Terrible accident. It can happen to any cars, anyone, anyday. You guys know what we do when we're there. Condolences to the victims.

 

Yo Pistole!

Still in CN I'm afraid. Last minute glitches on specifications caused by the Jap-Chinese fiasco last couple of months. Switching everything to Chinese sourced and other Asian countries products and that is a 4' tall Bill of Quantities!

Regarding the accident, I share the same view. I believe the driver has enough guilt and burden on his shoulders that'll haunt him forever.

Will call you when I get back.

Cheers.

 

You again....

 

hi Isk.

good luck with your BQ's and just don't get VO'ed away ....

cheers.

 

An interesting note...on the tyre....it could be a revelant point...if the car has been sitting at the dealer for a period of time, that might lead the tire to "crack" (not exactly the right word)... but a tire blowout at normal speed limits would still not cause an accident like that.

I have seen an Audi RS6 (not mine) loose a WHEEL at about 90KM/h and he still came to a stop.....so a blown out tyre with an intact rim should still be manageble...speeding was the main cause here and no matter weather he has to live with it for the rest of his life, he is still an IDIOT.

 

hey , relax .....

on the tyres , I remember when I got my car , the original P-Zeros were
still on and the sidewalls had developed hairline cracks. When the
sidewalls were pinched (ie , when the cracks-portion were near the ground),
the cracks opened up ....... gawd.

do remember that tyres have a life. there is a 4 digit number stamped on
all tyres. The first pair refer to the week of the year, the second pair refers
to the year of manufacture. any tyre above 4 years is 'suspect'.

I have experienced blowouts before (in a 4wd) and its no joke. Basically,
it goes down to your luck whether you can bring the car under control or
not.

 

That is terrible news. May they rest in peace..

 

think about it...

Accident already happened, why rant on it? calling the driver an idiot isnt going to bring anything or anyone back.

On the note of tire blowouts.

I've been down that route a few times and it can be a scary experience

this one happened at Sepang coming down the front straight and blew up right as I hit the first brake marker

This particular tire suffered from low pressure and 'delaminated' , where the the layers of rubber came apart from each other.
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Hmmmn how long was those tyres in storage....?

I just feel sad for the poor kid....children are always innocent, relying on adults to make the right decisions for them....what was two adults thinking by putting a kid on the lap of a passenger and then going out in a Ferrari....sad...just sad that he wont be able to grow up...

 

No idea, maybe a few yrs?

Dunlop had a Japanese tech look over the tires and gave me a report in japanese..like it would be of any use to me.

I did understand from them that it was due to "low tire" pressure.
I had started out 28/29psi cold and about 35-36 psi hot

I had used these pressures for my V700s and Sport cups. But this car was significantly heavier.

I have since used Yoko 032s and on Toyo RA1s, run much higher psis and start high and bled them to 38-40psi hot


I hear you on the kid, but in no part I think it would be fair to cast judgement on this accident. It happpened, learn from it, not rant on it

 

This is a terrible accident but whatever the circumstances were, the child's father and the driver were terribly irresponsible by having the kid sit on his father's lap. Probably the kid was dead instantly after being crushed.

 

from the looks of that tyre , you had quite an experience entering turn 1.
the problem with tyre pressures on a track is that the pressures really do
go up very high and very fast. I've never thought of pumping hard and
then bleeding down ..... will do on the 3rd as we'll be there.

cheers.

 

I agree

didnt we last see the pictures of the Enzo from KL GP and there was the same situation. The father was driving with the kid standing in the passenger side

-f

 

It is a better idea, start high thirties, and bled down. Higher if you are on street tires.

I entered T1 going flat out, it was my 7th or 8th lap and I guess the pressures might have gone crazy

What event is on the 3rd? I am still away but will be there with PCS in the morning TCS in the afternoon.

-f

 

fire.

terrible.

on the 3rd we're having a trackday. 2pm - 5 pm.

cheers!

 

I read sometime ago, that tyres indeed do have a lifespan as mentioned above, and that too long a time in storage >1 year can cause the tyre to dry up.

There are impregnated beads or something in the tyres made today that lubricates outwards whenever it is used (rotation and load)...something like that, so if it has been stored the lubrication does not happen and eventually the tire just parches up...

Someone correct me if i am wrong....