Did a Wynn salesman blow a sale by making him go to the back of the line?

Thank you for proving my point so well... other than your interaction, I've never been made to feel anything but welcome here, no matter what car I drive, what income I make, nor what home in which I live.

Perhaps the fact that this place was previously found to be not of your liking speaks better of it than of you.

 

Well said.

 

That was my take on it as well... given the circumstances, I'd have preferred not to have his business, waiting line or not.

But, as was said, none of us were there, so we can only guess.

Life goes on.

 

Boo hoo.
Rich pushy guy does not get what he wants, when he wants.
Dealer maybe is rude... not a new story... not that shocking.
Plenty of cars out there if you really want one, rich guy!

Ever see the Simpsons where Homer runs into a gun shop demanding to buy a gun, but is informed that there is a 5 day "grace period", and, jumping around like he is going to pee his pants, says something like...
"But I might not be angry in 5 days!"

 

I guess my point is there are definitely rules to buying a new Ferrari.

Sure, we all wish if we had the cash we could walk right up and buy a new 430. The fact is that there is so much demand, that there are waiting lists. Would we rather Ferrari to continue jacking up the price, so that nobody could get a 430 at $170k? I sure wouldn't. If you have the cash, sure you could buy a 430, but you need to do it on the secondary market & pay $260k.

There are also rules about having to be a Nevada resident as Ferrari doesn't want to compete with the F-Car dealer from your home state.

I'm just a guy who believes in following rules, no more, no less. Maybe it is the accountant in me?

Going into the Wynn casino and throwing a fit, in my opinion, is not the right way to go about it.

And sure I made assumptions about this guy from reading the article. Assumptions based on first hand accounts about how well people I knew were treated at this dealership. Including people like my uncle who would never consider buying a Ferrari. Who had no idea what the Enzo was that he saw there & best comment was that it looked like a bat. But they were still very nice to him and his kids.

This guy was a gambler also - Which is cool in my eyes as I spend a lot of my time playing poker. So usually I would be on his side, but sorry, I have never been a guy who thinks I deserve something extra special because I may have a couple of more dollars than the guy in line in front of me.

 

A ferrari dealership in the WYNN just means that ferrari as a marque is decending to the level of cool once populated by hairy chested gold medallion turbo porche and countach owners. No matter how good the product is ultimatly the brand will loose its true performance cachet as someone serious like mclaren takes over and ferrari just becomes an image of itself reflectinig through a prism.

 

Just curious,
What is the high roller? Is it just an average Joe who hit six figures on the slots/tables, and decided to go out and buy a Ferrari? Or was it a true high roller, who likely would have had an car they wanted?

 

I was at the Wynn over the forth of July weekend. I saw the line to the show room so went into the boutique instead. (it is in the same room with a velvet rope dividing it) The showroom closes at 9 but the boutique stays open until 11. When the showroom closed I was looking over the rope to see what was there. A salesman asked me if he could help me. I told him I was looking for Stradale. I was told there was one downstairs and if I would like to come back tomorrow he would show me. I came back and was treated great. Got the whole tour. Awesome showroom down stairs. It was the best experience I have had at any Ferrari dealership.

There were plenty of cars for sale if you were serious.

 

I agree - I would give the Wynn sales guy a spot bonus for the way he handled it.

 

He probably forgot to genuflect upon entering the aura. Maybe he hasn't been saying his novenas. In any event, he'll probably have to buy some indulgences before he can be worthy.

 

How about you just show your FCA card and get in?

 

So as not to ever paraphrase again..... I must ask.... what possible difference does it make it he "cares" about the marque? I am saddened to still see this type or mentality. If you can afford a 3.5 mil home you get to buy one in whatever area you like. Why don't you vent the same type of indignant BS when some ghetto rapper with a 3rd grade education not only buys a new Fcar.... he then "pimps" it out? I use my cars as tools.... sometimes to hone my skills as a driver... other times to piss off less lucky....
and even once in a while to pamper my ego... But you know what? When I meet another Fcar owner I never ask him if he cares about the "Marque". We usually swap stories about ownership and pissing on the kids that run ricers... or what nice looking tail was in the passenger last. I would be willing to sit and have a drink with any of you.. I know my racing heritage and history. But only for the stories of the past greatness.... none of that makes it into the new Fiats or Elises or Masers. Porsche, at least, still has some purity.

 

Im not attacking you or your car. My question is that you really challenge kids in Evos and Civics (my idea of ricers) on the street with your Mondial? Even the classic looking Boxer and 308 could get blown away by a new MB S65 towing a couple of jetskis on a trailer or a Dodge Ram SRT-10 making a great like a Porsche 993 C4S like a limping laddy bug. Why would you use a Mondial to do street light to street light battles? Unless you are blocking them on a single lane road, I doubt you can piss them off much. Why even bother doing those battles in any car regardless of the name or great known history and elusiveness factor? If you are confident in that activity and in that car, you must have had something done to it?

RocketBoy

 

A sports car in its purest form:
http://www.autobytel.com/images/carPics/TestDrv/SueMead/500/Porsche1.jpg


Uh- this guy was no better than a rapper with chrome wheels on his F-car. He demanded to be treated better than others because he thought he was better than them. What a moron... I don't go to dinner at people's houses and expect the best food first just because I think I'm better. This guy was an ass and was treated like one.

 

Rocket, to answer you.. Yeppers.. the 3.2 is not exactly a jet...lol. What we see alot around here are ricers that look and sound fast but are stock. I love looking over at a red light and seeing the envy. Unless I am in the Esprit...( not cats... adjustable wastegate) and then I just cook their asses. End result is the same... they go home with a jap POS... I go home with a exotic.

 

I find that statement quite amusing, so are you classifying all Japanese cars as POS's?

I have a Supra that would be pleased to change your mind, and seeing as we're both in south FL, maybe I'll get the golden oppertunity of lining up with you at a light sometime......

 

You sound like the kind of guy that wants the car so people notice you. Kind of like your neat little Porsche story about you and your long haired friend. That is cool, whatever floats your boat.

I prefer talking to true car enthusiast who like the car for what it is, not what attention it gets them. A guy who knows some history behind it, etc. Not the guys who bought one because his neighbor had a Mercedes and wanted to one up him.

Well damnit, why didn't you just say that up front? You use your car to piss off those that aren't as lucky as you. You are a real champ. Sorry you didn't like F-chat upon your first encounter and are not enjoying it once again. That is fine by me - I'm hoping that is all the info you need to leave & never come back.

 

Sounds like a case of 2 a-holes giving eachother a hard time, perfect

 

Well I guess it just goes to show you that money can buy cool stuff, but it can help you with your personality..... Kinda sad

 

I didn't know this was the Ferrari Owners' site, I must have lost my way. But while I'm here Can someone give me the password for the F&Y section? (c:

 

I'm late to this thread but I really don't understand the rationale for the Wynn dealership. Most Ferrari dealerships have a pretty poor buyer to looker ratio. I can't imagine how much more skewed it must be at Wynn. Having said that, I would be quite agitated if I had to stand in line with literally hundreds of lookers if I was a real buyer.I don't have much regard for the average car salesperson, but I enjoy dealing with the professionals at the few dealerships where I am known and treated with the respect that should be accorded to someone who spends his money there.

The real problem at Wynn-Penske Ferrari is in identifying the real customer and that's why the Wynn dealership is really just a PR excercise for all the companies concerned (Ferrari, Wynn and Penske). By no manner is it a real dealership. Real dealers, in their territory get to know their customers far better than Wynn's people will ever be able to.
It must be most frustrating for residents of Las Vegas who erroneously believed that they finally had a local Ferrari Authorized dealer in town. They really have a souvenir shop and a display area for Roger's toys.

 

Alex - I certainly agree that the dealership has an unusually high ratio of lookers to buyers. However, I can tell you that the folks there have made a very sincere (and effective) effort to get to know the "Ferrari people" in southern Nevada. They have participated in and/or sponsored several of our FCA chapter events, and have made access to the dealership a routine matter for us. (And they have been rewarded with a number of sales, as is appropriate.)

You might be interested in the following, which I posted several weeks ago:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?
p=134980365#post134980365

There have also been several occasions when F-Chatters have contacted me about visiting the dealership, and they have been welcomed there. I suggest that anyone here who wishes to visit PM me, and I will do what I can to make arrangements. (After July 23 ... I am presently away on vacation.)

 

Here's that message thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=134980365#post134980365

 

Promises, promises. Please keep this one. If you don't like what's posted on the board leave and move on.