348 Door Wiring

Oh, my goodness!!

What does the connector on the other door look like?

Edit: Wait a minute, those don't look like factory wires. Has someone partially rewired this already (and done a horrible job)??

 

wow! a lot of consendation...wire it straight through and never worry about those terrible door connectors again...

another thing...my door indicator did not light up on my car either...after swapping bulbs with the other side (which did work), it still did not work and so i was wrong in guessing it was the bulb...it turned out to be the door switch..so i switched it with the one for the motorized belts (it uses the same one) and wala! it worked...i kept it like that because my driver side belt didnt work so who cares about the passenger side also...

swap the bulbs first, if that doesnt work, swap the door pin switch.

 

i think thats gonna fix A LOT of those problems!!!! but I BET, I BET it doesnt fix them all! I bet you at least one and possibly two need another remedy.....because its italian of course...its never, that, easy...

 

Godspeed, my friend. I spent 36 labor hours rewiring my doors, and the window still blows goats. I did the whole freakin' thing from inside the wheel well to deep inside the door. Bottom line? Let's find some manual cranks for these windows and have a solution that actually works.

Shame of Ferrari for this pile of electrical crap. Don't even ask about a replacement wiring harness... you're talking deep $1K

 

im hoping to make it over that way in the next 2-3 weeks...if you havent gotten it all fixed, maybe we can both get our hands dirty and kick those gremlins out of there. I'm not the ferrari expert by any means, but I am pretty good with solving electrical problems...and maybe you can figure out what that crazy as whining noise is on my car!

 

What is funny about the whole thing is that the purists think its better to leave it stock. Hahahahaaa.

 

tmobileguy...we'd love to have you over to Tallahassee! Our next Gulf Coast Exotics get-together is 9/3/05 (Saturday AM). Depending upon how dismantled John's 348 is, I've got a spare space in my garage for overnight if you need it.

 

John -

I should rephrase: rewiring my door did fix the intermittent window problem. The drivers window now works perfectly -- like a Honda! The passenger window goes down very fast (from both door controls). The passenger window goes up very fast until the last 6 inches. Then, it absolutely crawls. The final 1 inch is only operable from the passenger switch. The drivers side switch for the passenger window seems to give-up for the final inch.

Mind you, I replaced ALL switches with brand new ones (hey, I have a parts bucket!), all the wiring in both doors, and totally eliminated that stupid pin-type connector. I'm just saying, be prepared to spend some serious time on this project.

Finally, do yourself a favor: remove the cheese grater and work from -outside- as well as inside the door. You'll get more light, and have much more room to work.

-Daniel

 

You need to adjust the window guide on the door. It is the little black triangular thing and the end of the door. When you open the door you will see two allen screws above and to the side of the red door light. Loosen those and then adjust the guide so that the window rolls all the way up freely. Once the guide is adjusted to were you want it tighten the allen screws back down.

 

hey dan, is it possible that the motors are bad ???? AND WHERES MY MATS ??? LOL

 

When I purchased my '91 348 years ago, I had window problems also. I asked Ferrari of Los Gatos to fix it. The wiring and conectors looked as bad as yours. I ended up replacing the window regulators to improve the speed. It was very expensive for the replacement requlators. There was not much improvement. Repair the wiring and live with the slow speed of the windows.

My two cents.

Dan

 

What a dumbass I am! Thanks ernie, I'll give it a try tonight!

 

Another trick...spray all the window felts with silicone spray to lube them up a bit. You will need to reapply every 4 to 6 months...but keeps everything moving smoothly.

 

I had my car shipped from Florida on an open trailer and the pass window wouldn't roll up.....so all the way to Washington State with the window down. Yikes! Anyway, I think what happens is individual wires flex and break. So try to verify all the copper strands of each wire are in good condition. Also use a wire tie about one inch from the connector as a strain relief. My car also had a couple of crimp on connections going to the motors that I cleaned and soldered. YMMV

Jeff Pintler
89 348tb, 86TR

 

Daniel - did adjusting the window frame work

 

Does any one have the pin-out diagram and wire colors for the left door connector. I mean at the round qwik-lock. I have a 1994 spider made in june of '94

 

I have a wiring diagram but now I need some real detail. thanx

 

With so many threads on that topic and you resurrect one from 2005? Which search function did you use?

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/348-door-jamb-connector-pin-out.533972/

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I can't say I've seen a pinout or diagram for the spider in the last 5 years of looking, only diagrams for the non-spider cars. They have extra pins compared to the non-spider cars, but I can't tell you if the unused pins on the non-spider cars correspond to the additional pins on the spider cars. Ferrari may have shuffled the pins on the spider. Note also, the commonly available pdf diagrams have been known to have different pinning from the actual car (or they may vary from car to car).

You say you have a diagram, but you may need several diagrams to cover all the pins. e.g. "Windows", "Power Mirrors & Doors", etc. Do you have a specific problem or are you repinning the whole connector?

Can you read the numbers on the door connector?

Welcome to FChat )

(P.S. You may get more results on the 348/355 forum.)