I guess you redefine "a New York state of mind" - all for show, not for pleasure..... Are you so insecure that you delved into your wife's past before marrying her? Redefines love... and by the way, your "new" Ferrari has been driven harder and faster than you probably ever will before you got it, so define new.... Sometimes a little patina is a sign of quality, it's like a good wine but I guess that's too complicated to understand
A car, like houses, stocks, or any other asset, is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Supply vs. Demand. I'm sorry you are not getting what you feel is right for your 575, but look at it this way. You have had enough good fortune in your life to have both a 575 and a 430 in your possession (at the same time) and you're worried about $15K? Most people can never afford the toys, and probably lifestyle, that you have enjoyed. I'm no doctor, nor do I live in an extravagent house, but I was able to finally pick up my dream car, a 1988 328 GTS this year and I'm thrilled with it! Took me 15 years to save up for it and I love it! Could I ever afford a 430? Probably not. But I'm ecstatic for what I do have and don't really care if I ever get a dime for it if I ever do go to sell it! Word of advise, stop crying the blues over a few $$$ that you probably don't need anyway. Put life in perspective and realize that you have greater riches than 99.9% of the people in the world!
Hear Hear! Bravo! Well said! To put it bluntly, not EVERYTHING is about money. Not even here in America.
Agree 100%, especially for the relatively common cars. Enzo didn't build his cars to be gawked at; he built them to drive and race.
Michael I am not "crying the blues",just pointing out the paradox of garage queens vs "drive your Ferrari---until purchase time. Michael-you are a judgmental moron! Nothing I have gotten in life was given to me-I worked my ass off for everything I have. You know nothing of my "lifestyle".Having practiced oncology for 30 yrs (that's cancer in case you are as ignorant as you sound) I certainly am able to put life in "perspective" Word of advice (not "advise") to you-Keep your posts about Ferrari's and don't delve into personalities.Perhaps then life's "good fortune" will come to you.
You most certainly were crying the blues when you stated "I lowered the price 10-15K less than the other '03 575's on the market and still it hasn't sold. I may just have to keep it!" You make it sound like keeping a Ferrari is such a sacrifice. Then, you revert to name calling. How professional. I guess when you can't debate with facts that prove your point, you go to character assassinations. Are you a politician? Regardless, I'm not going down that sewer with you. As far as working your ass off for everything you've gotten, that's terrific. I never said you were given anything, so I don't know where you were going with that statement. I too have worked my A$$ off (9 years of college and 15 years in manufacturing) to get where I am and afford my car. I know I have it better than most people in this world. I have my family, health, education, and my F-car. So life's good fortunes have come to me and I am extremely thankful for what I have. Are you? After reading your response, I stand by my original statement about your not putting life in perspective 100%! Signed, The ignorant, judgmental moron
After reading your responses, I stand by my now public assessment of your opinion that its naive. It was a joke, and you showed a very good man (that you don't know) disrespect. You're in manufacturing, he's saved or prolonged lives. I think his perspective is just fine. Its a misunderstanding - take a breather, we're all wrong once in a while. Sunny
Dear Ferraristi, I donno...I think MW575 sort of is crying the blues. I have a 91 TR that has a 40 hr engine out service every 30k at about $ 10,000( including the "while you're in there" ) and I put 8000 miles a year on the car. I, you and all of us lose resale big time if you factor in the maintenance costs ( proper not slap-dash ) The fact you have to shout that you save lives....I donooo.... Most of us have worked our "asses" off to have what we have whatever the occupation.....and yes " Good Forturne " has to smile on us that we can afford these expensive cars. I'm thankful.... Disclamer....This post is written without an attitude....I just don't like the personal attacks. " Can't we all just get along ? " Shamile Freeze....Miami Vice !
I wish we could all get along too. I fail to see how questioning a stranger regarding their perspective in a provocative manner has anything to do with someone trying to seek a return on something purchased and being resold. I would feel as Marty would if MJT328GTS (someone I don't know at all) jumped into my thread that I started when I became unemployed and accused me of lacking their perspective. Sunny
Yes ,I was kidding. In any case, that's the end of the pissing contest from this quarter. Thanks Sunny-love you too.
You are learning the bitter lesson that a Ferrari is just another car unless it has a competition history or a special build qualification. Depreciation is a fact of life, sometimes its more then you expect, and seldom less. The 575 has nothing to commend it over its competition. Great car but no competetive differential and less electronics or bling then the L, P or A cars. personally I like them but I think the 456M is better value as is the 360. Once the 430 hits the used markets, the 360s are going to be good value with Challenge options and F1 boxes. All IMO of course and other than being right about the fact that 99% of all new (post 1990) cars will go much further down before they go up - I could be very wrong.
Ouch. As hardtop points out, there's just too many people who buy Ferraris as trophies and sell them almost-as-new a year or two later at notable depreciation. It makes it tough to find a buyer... since those looking at those price tags feel "safer" with a lower mileage car. Then because many in your shoes get in a hurry to sell, they end up discounting the car more than necessary to find that rare buyer who knows the miles aren't that big an issue. If you plan to buy new and sell in a couple years when the new model comes out, expect crazy depreciation... there's just too many people with big $$ to burn doing that... if you can't justify that depreciation cost, be happy buying the prior model. The only way to own the "latest model" at low cost is to put very few miles on it and flip it quick (before the next model comes out). But there's just so little fun in that! Look on the BRIGHT SIDE: Who had more fun/$$? The person who is selling their $240K car for $190K because it only has 2K miles on it ($25/mile) or you selling your $240K car for (say) $163K because it has 11K miles on it ($7/mile). If you had put 100K miles on it, you would have far lower cost / mile of fun!
I have a 360 which I drive every weekend. I get up early and, "go for my ride". These cars are meant to be driven. I bought it to enjoy it. It WILL deteriorate if you let it sit. Case in point. I had a Chris Craft diesel yacht which I seldom cruised. As a result my injection pump seals dried out and it cost me $6,000 to repair. I was foolish. My '01 360 has 7K miles and is perfect. I just did the major service and, it is a great pleasure. You decide. Cheers!