Do any of you park your Ferrari Outside?

You are twisting my words. Why do you have to twist words around in order to make a point? I never said if you park your car outside it will look like crap. I simply said from my experience, if you don't stay on top of a non garaged car it will start to look like crap.

I also never stated that someone that doesn't have a garage should not buy a Ferrari. I don't know where you got that one from but it wasn't from me. If you have an opportunity to purchase a Ferrari then you go for it. Nothing is worse then not going for it and regretting it later on. My view is well noted here.

Have a nice day,
Eric

 

I would build a garage first or rent a storage warehouse. I would never store a Ferrari or any other car I own for that matter outside.

 

I owned my 911 for 5 years before it was ever garaged. Yes, it was tough to work on it outside and it took more effort to keep it up. When I bought my ferrari, I kept it in the garage at my condo, not private, per say, but not public. Now, I've moved to a house and am having a garage built, in the several months that's taken, the car has sat outside on the street. It's not great, but as long as you keep it clean, clubbed, and covered, it shoudl be ok.

 

Here is a few shots of my daily driver 308. Its now on its second odometer as the first one stopped working at over 100,000 miles. These cars are meant to be driven. It is does quite well in the snow with a lower tire pressure. I do remove my aftermarket wheels in the winter & put on a set of 14's with an M&S tire. I named this car ENZO as this car just never stops! Best car I have ever owned!
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Cars look and run better when they're stored indoors. They rust, fade and accumulate dents and scratches outside. Electrical contacts corrode.

Covers help somewhat, but it's impossible to keep a car sufficiently clean outside (dust blows under the cover) to prevent scratching when you take the cover on/off. If you don't cover it, the sun does a job on red paint, especially red paint from 20+ years ago. Also, people remove the cover to look at the car. If they're nice, the cover ends up in the gutter. If not, it's gone (happened to me twice in college.)

Vandalism is always a problem - even in "nice" neighborhoods. Idiots don't need a reason. If you travel at all, the risk is even worse.

A friend bought a brand new BMW 3 coupe, in black, a few years back, in Philadelphia and stored it outside. It was heartbreak to watch it get dented and scratched while parked. He sold it.

Also, Bill's advice might be based on living in Palm Gardens, Florida. Having lived in Cleveland, Chicago and San Diego, I can tell you that leaving a car out in the snow and rain is a whole different game. That engine cover leaves a lot accessible to the elements. And I see you're in Canada...

My vote: Rent a garage, or buy a house with one, before you drop the bucks on an exotic Italian sports car. Your Ferrari will deteriorate and depreciate faster than the 99% (I admit I'm guessing on this) that are stored indoors.

Sorry for the rant. I used to detail cars, and I don't want to see you go through the heartbreak of trying to keep an exotic Italian car nice and reliable as it sits in the snow.

 

I wish I did have a garage.

 

More reading:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76522

Dry is good.

 

I agree. My point wasn't to say it's ok or good to keep a car outside. I wouldn't have purchased a Ferrari if I didn't have storage.

 

Nick,
How many miles are on your 308? Has the engine been rebuilt? What year 308 is it?

 

Before I bought my Ferrari, I completely cleaned out my garage and moved an outside, 5ft. tall, retaining wall about 2ft., so that the car would fit into the garage. That is how important ,I felt, it was to keep the car inside.

 

Well, it's just my opinion...
It's not where you park it, it's how you take care of it!

How about some of you guys that had to have a garage before you bought your Ferrari, pull a wheel off and take a picture of your chassis and suspension.
Let's all see how nice your undercarriage looks by parking your Ferrari in a garage.

 

I hear ya. Like I said, mine is outside now while I'm having the garage rebuilt as a 2 car. I dug down the foundation about 4 feet to eliminate the sharp angle at the top of the driveway. It's crazy to think how much coin I spent in order to keep a $30,000 car inside!!!

 

Like one of the other poster's here, I live in a historic district that does not have a garage to my condo building. I have rented a garage in the next town (MUCHO cheaper in insurance too!). During the Summer driving months, I do park the car outside my place along with my neighbor who also owns a 328. We both bought covers from California Car Covers and have not had any real problems.

I did catch some schmuck trying to lift up a corner of my cover to see what lay underneath. A bright flashlight and a loaded 45 was enough to send him away with a big pee stain in his jeans... Stuff happens, so be prepared! The elements are not good for any car in my opinion, but as long as you cover the car and do not park it under trees (oaks that drop HUGE acorns is a good example here) you're probably OK. The Winter months really require you to garage it somewhere safe and away from the water, salt, etc.

I treat my car like it was my own kid and if in doubt about the situation, I ask myself how I would feel to be sitting in the blazing sun or the frigid cold... then I act accordingly.

Does anyone know if Versace or Armani make spiffy down-filled car parkas?

 

Like I said, you make do with what you have.

 

Hi jimangle, the second odometer is reading 67,800 miles on this 1981 308. I am in the high 170,000-mile range at this point, but it could be more. I have not done anything to the inside of the engine as of yet. I do not have any history of any serious work being done on this engine before I purchased it. I did lower drive bearings a while ago. It has a direct coil ignition and a few minor mods, crankcase venting mods, just waiting for the engine to go, so I can modify it. Using approx 1 qt of oil every 500-600 miles of hard driving & it has a few minor oil leaks. It always starts & runs & never lets me down, I drive the car easy until it’s up to temp & change the oil & filter every 2 months. Its not where you park it, its how you take care of it. Regards

 

For me, a garage is essential though one was not available where I live.

I have my "daily driver" covered in the single parking space where I live and the F-car about 5 miles away in a secure self storage garage.

The self storage place has the comforting bonus of good security - PIN code gate entry which disarms the garage's individual alarm, video survellience, etc.

regards,
Pete

 

I always keep my cars covered..... (and in the carriage house when home).

The only time any toy is uncovered is when it is being driven, washed, or serviced.

just my personal preference.

 

rent a storage space or something. It wouldn't be your only car, right?

 

Milimetric snow tyres........how on earth did you find them?

 

Metric (TRX) snow tires do not exist, as you probably suspected. As a result, I have learned more than I ever wanted to know about fitting wheels to a 400i. The original TRX wheel 180/415 translates to 16.3"x7". The offset is 10mm all around, and they are the standard Ferrar 5x108 bolt pattern. This would lead one to suspect that 308qv wheels (or the replicas) would bolt right on as they are 16x7, ~11mm offset. However, I have it on good authority that will actually not fit on the front without a spacer - as they hit the tie rod end. Perhaps this is because of the slightly smaller diameter? It is unclear. Perhaps I will just buy a set and use them on my dino if they don't fit nicely - or try a set of 17" 308 wheels from ga red cars (but even though they claim these are 308 wheels, they say they have a 25mm offset, which makes no sense, and the guy I talked to on the phone appeared to have some type of learning disability and / or speech impediment) - the extra diameter may allow them to bolt on without a spacer - anyway I have a month or two before we should see snow here in NY so I have a little time to figure it out. Any ideas?

Alex

 

dear guy
we always park together.
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I'm usually not much for after market or later year F wheels but those really look nice Nick.