Voltage Regulator In Alternator | FerrariChat

Voltage Regulator In Alternator

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Ken, Sep 28, 2005.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Ken

    Ken F1 World Champ

    Oct 19, 2001
    16,078
    Arlington Heights IL
    Full Name:
    Kenneth
    If I may borrow some expartise from the group: I have a new VR I put in my alternator and it's putting out 17 volts when I rev the engine. It's not adjustable; what can I do before my battery fries? Being a very old model (British AC Delco) there's only one VR replacement on the market so I'm kind of stuck using what I have.

    TIA

    Ken
     
  2. Verell

    Verell F1 Veteran
    Consultant Owner

    May 5, 2001
    7,022
    Groton, MA
    Full Name:
    Verell Boaen
    IMHO, you've probably got a defective regulator.
    CAVEAT: If it's a 2 or 3 wire system (heavy output wire, a 'sense' wire & a charge light wire), then it's possible that the sense wire has a bad connection.

    Don't confues the sense wire with a charging indicator light wire like the 308 BOSCH alternators have. Many 2-wire alternators are output & charge light, not output & sense.

    Most alternator regulators work the same way.
    If all else fails, There were some early alternators with external regulator boxes. One of these should be adaptable to your alternator. Sorry, I can't remember specific examples, last time I saw an external regulator alternator was back in the early '70s.
     
  3. gdbsti

    gdbsti Formula Junior

    Oct 10, 2004
    283
    Nor Cal
    Full Name:
    Bruce
    I agree with Verells comments.

    If there is no sensing wire fault and you installed the new VR correctly (didn't ground out one side of the brush set by mistake in-case it's a ground switch circuit), then I'd look at another regulator or alternator complete. You'd be able to get a high quality bosch unit that would last forever to fit I'm sure, or if you just want an extenal regulator, I think the Bosch number for the solid state ones is (was?) RE55 and RE57.
    Good luck
     
  4. Ken

    Ken F1 World Champ

    Oct 19, 2001
    16,078
    Arlington Heights IL
    Full Name:
    Kenneth
    Thanks. Yes, I will check the 'sense' or exciter wire. It's got a questionable connection to the ammeter. The ammeter itself needs to checked too from what I understand. I was also thinking an external VR would do the trick and I may have to do that. It seems a little "DPO" but it's better than fried battery.

    Ken
     
  5. gdbsti

    gdbsti Formula Junior

    Oct 10, 2004
    283
    Nor Cal
    Full Name:
    Bruce
    Is the 17V measured at the battery or the alternator output stud? If you have a bad ammeter, it may be signalling to the alternator a low voltage, making it charge higher.
    I'd look closely at the ammeter before throwing the regulator you put in away. Ammeters are just voltmeters measuring voltage drop across a shunt. They are not very accurate and IMHO a PITA. Having all the cars current supply running to and from the dash and the to the supply/auxillaries builds a lot of V/drop up in the first place. (Dim lights etc...)

    You could try bypassing the ammeter by running a heavy gauge wire to the battery directly form the alternator and see if that helps. (Providing the alt is internally sensed.) If it's externally sensed, check the sense wire Voltage matches your battery voltage within .25 volt as well as the extra wire.

    Oh, and another thought, check all your ground wires too. The alternator is not rubber mounted is it? Check the chassis grounds as well.

    Cheers
     
  6. Ken

    Ken F1 World Champ

    Oct 19, 2001
    16,078
    Arlington Heights IL
    Full Name:
    Kenneth
    Thanks for the thoughts! I checked the ammeter last night and it's about 4 ohms which is correct. The fact it acts like a tach makes me think I have an internal sort or something in the alternator. Mine has 2 insulated screws that hold the brush plate; I have a hunch sloppy assembly (by me) may be the problem. I'll take it apart tonight and reassemble.

    BTW, my grounds are good; all the connections are good.

    Ken
     

Share This Page