348 coupe or nsx

I agree. The newer owners could easily afford one, however, I bet most are looking for something that doesn't require as much maintenance as the Ferrari does. No doubt that a NSX is definetely easier to own, and most parts are easier to access (notice I said most).
I don't think its a money issue for MOST when it comes to these two....I think most NSX owners choose because of specs and reliability whereas most Ferrari owners choose because of styling and mystique.

 

You sound very angry about this, why do you care so much?

 

I can't agree more with you NSX_Dreamer. A person making 40k a year, living in an apartment, with very little expenses, and eating canned foods everyday, can easily afford to lease or purhase practically any ferrari with the exeption of the higher end models ( ie. enzo, F-50) . It has nothing to do with income, it has to do with desire and to what limits a person will go to to afford their dream car. You'd be surprised at how many of the wealthiest people choose the nsx as their car of choice. Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Larry Ellison.

 

Buy the Honda, it will do want you want but it`s not Ferrari and never will be!!!

Anyway the Honda is just a ripoff copy of the MG EXE concept car that MG refused to sell to Honda.

Regards,
Phil.

P.S And where do I work all day, Honda UK (LOL).
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i have owned a 94 nsx with cantrell intake, comptech headers and tubi exhaust for two years. it sounds great and pulls like a demon. no it doesn't sound like a ferrari. in two years of ownership, zero problems. i go to acura dealer for service, i get a tl loaner and the bill is reasonable, not cheap, labor is still $90 an hour. the a/c kicks ass. it goes through rear tires like crazy. no matter how much i flog it, i still get 20mpg. i bought it b/c i needed a daily driver with excellent a/c that was reliable and i could track it on sunday with only a change of tires and drive it to work on monday. my only track mod is dot legal race tires and brake pads. it attracts no attention from anyone except a few teens (ricers). it is not a ferrari. the nsxca is not the fca since nsxca is a one model club spread very thin. the soul argument is a bunch of crap. maybe my friend's 250 pf cab has soul, but not a 348. there are gajilllions of mods for the car depending on what you want to do and you aren't punished in the marketplace for doing it. that said if you want to keep it stock, you can but it does sound like a sewing machine so i do recommend intake headers and exhaust. there are literally a dozen to choose from depending on what sound you want. it is a great car and i plan to keep it for a while. but it isn't a ferrari and it never will be. it just suits my needs currently better than a 348 which i seriously considered as well as a mondial as well as a vette before settling on nsx. there will be a ferrari in the garage at some point. i could write more but you get the point. go drive each car and decide for yourself. buy what you likeand what best suits you and your temperament and other people's opinions be damned.

 

Here's the answer to your thread.
If you want to a car with relatively low maint. buy the NSX. There's nothing wrong with them. Period. They're good cars. They've been in production for 15 years, and the model hasn't changed much. That says a lot. No one is going to look down on you for owning an NSX. If they do for some stupid reason, who cares? It's their problem. Now buy the NSX, if you don't like it, sell it, and then get a 348.

People buy Ferrari's because they're fun, beautiful cars, and it is an exclusive club, it's nice but that's not why I bought mine. My preferance for Ferrari, is because it's really a drivers car. If you were to drive an everyday car like you would a Ferrari, it would blow up.

Another thing, most of the Ferrari owners (also Jag owners) that I know generally seem to be car guys, and are pretty straight up people. They don't look down at other people because they own a lowly 308, or something else.
People who do that are obviously self concious about something.

 

I owned a Ferrari. The constant breakdowns costs led me to the NSX. So opinions that state "NSX is for Ferrari wannbes" is baseless and without merit.

I went the other way. Ferrari-NSX. And soon to add a Ferrari.
Please people, keep such nonsense away from logical posts.

Any car, (exotics included) should not be made to incur such high maintenance costs that they are rendered un-drivable when the miles equate to a cost that is an Unrealistically accepted as "The cost of doing business." There are many exotics that don't require this mindset. Many of them are Ferraris.

The Testarossa - 512TR that I owned was a costly endeavor in the way of maintenance/breakdowns. In hindsight, I should have done more research prior to ownership.
I am researching the realistic costs of a F-360 Spyder and conclude that this is a Ferrari without the constant headaches of the likes of the Testarossa - 512TR.

I will keep the NSX and the 360 Spyder will be a welcome addition.

 

And to me 348 owners are wanna be Ferrari owners but can't afford a 355. Seriously, how many of you 348 owners would trade your car for a 355 if you could?

 

Not many NSX owners would disagree with that statement. A 993 TT is AMAZING. They still cost a ton for used ones! I found some 993tt are going for more than the 996TT!

 

I think you have made it clear you want a 348. This thread is not offereing any new information. You have done your research. You know what to expect from the car and you still want it. I say go for it.

 

Also good advice. Chances are if you buy that 93 NSX you mentioned, you can drive it for a year and sell it for what you paid for it. I drove my 93 for 2.5 years and sold it for what I paid for it. Afer some time with HONDA, you can decide if it is worth the extra money for the 348.

 

what a bold statement indeed! Read my post, (copy below):

I owned a Ferrari. The constant breakdowns costs led me to the NSX. So opinions that state "NSX is for Ferrari wannabees" is baseless and without merit.

I went the other way. Ferrari-NSX. And soon to add a Ferrari.
Please people, keep such nonsense away from logical posts.

Any car, (exotics included) should not be made to incur such high maintenance costs that they are rendered un-drivable when the miles equate to a cost that is an Unrealistically accepted as "The cost of doing business." There are many exotics that don't require this mindset. Many of them are Ferraris.

The Testarossa - 512TR that I owned was a costly endeavor in the way of maintenance/breakdowns. In hindsight, I should have done more research prior to ownership.
I am researching the realistic costs of a F-360 Spyder and conclude that this is a Ferrari without the constant headaches of the likes of the Testarossa - 512TR.

I will keep the NSX and the 360 Spyder will be a welcome addition.

 

Sorry for the late post but just picked this up.

Yes, you've figured me out;As an NSX owner I'm a Ferrari wannabe. Even though I've owned Ferraris past and present, I'm still wannabe.

 

If you pass on this car please PM me. Thanks, David

 

If we could? What do you mean? For the same price? or for what 355's are currently going for?

If you mean the same price, then who wouldn't? The 355 is more advanced car...I'm sure that there are a few that would still keep the 348, though I don't think many.

If you mean for current 355 value....Absolutely not...If you are implying that most 348 owners could not afford a 355 I would beg to differ....I can speak for myself and say that if I wanted a 355, I could trade my 348 for one....as I would bet 80% of all other owners could. I wouldn't pay the premium though. To me, the 348 is a steal at the prices they are going for and 355's are fair to slightly high in value at their current values.
If it was a perfect world, I would incorporate the drivetrain and power of the 355, the interior, and rear of the car with the rest of the 348...
I like the strakes on the 348 better, I like the nose of the 348 better...everything else on the cars are the same....

 

So you work at Honda? Have you worked on the the NSX? Humm, unless you llive in Togochi Japan you have no affiliation with the NSX.

1-Who ever said "it's not a Ferrari and never will be!!!"

Like Duh!

That's like saying the Ferrari is not a Mclaren F1 and never wil be!!!
This is quite comical indeed!
Ok, so I have a Ford Explorer and it's not a Range Rover and will never be!!! Oh, my what I'm going to do now? I better sell the Ford right away and buy a Hummer.

2- MG exe ripoff?
Ok, lets see here. No, wait the NSX is a Nissan concept 4
http://zhome.com/History/MID-4.htm

No, thats not it. Ok, well yeah it's a ripoff of a 200 SX.....No, dang that's not it!

http://www.innerauto.com/includes/images/Inner_Auto/Nissan_Parts/200sx_parts.jpg

Ok, no, now this is it really. A Ferrari 408 Integrale?

http://209.196.179.161/discus/messages/21/1869.jpg

C'mon. The NSX was designed from the ground up.


You can't compare a NSX and a F-308
You can't compare a F-430 and a NSX
etc, etc, etc.

BTW: The Mclaren F1 supension was studied after a NSX:

Reproduced from

F1 – McLaren’s Road Car

An Autocar & Motor Book

"Murray didn’t know how much longitudinal wheel compliance to provide. In racing cars every effort is made to eliminate compliance to maximise wheel control. So McLaren bought a Honda NSX and put it on the electro-hydraulic kinematics and compliance rig at Anthony Best Dynamics."

 

A flawed diamond is still more valuable than a perfect brick. I'm not saying the 348 is flawed (It's not!) I have not had ANY problems with it (none at all!)

 

Heck of a lot of newbies in this thread. It must be linked to a NSX board somewhere.

Just get what feels right. Go out and really drive both (not just putt around) and go with your gut. I'd never own a Japanese car, but the NSX is a fine piece of engineering.

 

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58050

 

I guess that says it. You have an NSX and still plan to buy 360. Two different cars, two different sets of needs, nothing wrong with that at all.

Retained value is retained for a reason.

That said, an NSX is a nice car. Just doesn't have the drama of the others - especially compared to a 348 - IMHO.

 

I guess I could agree with that to somepoint. One of the great things about the NSX is how easy it is to drive fast on a racetrack. On the otherhand, I guess that could make it less dramatic than other cars.

 

I have been a member of Fchat for about 3 years now....and went on a few runs myself. Online, people may say things they don't mean and trying to justify the non-existent. However in real life during our meets, we're all as one enjoying the road and the excitement from our car whether it is the NSX or Ferrari. As I have said many times, can we just get along? true car enthusiast would appreciate all to include a ford pinto. There is no need thrash each other on the forum. If that is a must, do it in real life.............that way, you can end with a cold beer. We are fortunate to drive a fine car....................lets appreciate what we have and enjoy it.

 

NSX is a great daily driver.

348 is a compromised daily driver if you think about parking etc but when on the move, or in traffic, absolutely no issues at all. I take my 348 to work every single day of the week.... it is a daily driver, and if you get a good example, problem free.

Of course when the time comes for maintenance it will hurt more than an NSX service, but this is something that you will just have to accept if you want a Ferrari.

Ugly red headed child of the Ferari family, perhaps to some, but bang for the buck, the 348 is definitely worth every penny.

 

this thread has taken on a life of its own...

 

I have had 3 Ferraris and 2 NSX's. They are all fun cars with aesthetic appeal.
If I was going to own just 1 car and have it be a sports car daily driver, I would choose the NSX over the Ferrari.
If I wanted an extra car to frequently drive and occasionally drive to the track for DE or Auto-X, I would choose the NSX.
If I was scared of maintenance costs, I would take the NSX. Mile for mile, the Ferrari will generally cost more over time.
If I wanted a fun car to enjoy a once or twice a week that for better or worse gives you more emotional highs or lows, I choose the Ferrari.