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Flowmasters on a Ferrari? WTF!

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  1. MufflerMan

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    #1 MufflerMan, Nov 6, 2005
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    Anyone ever heard a Ferrari with Flowmasters? Seems like a terrible idea to me, I saw a 512 with them on it this weekend at a dealership. I have attached a picture.
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  2. Joe G.

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    sad

    was that a wine color 512 by any chance ?
     
  3. M512

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    I used to have them on my mustang, many moons ago (college). They sounded great on an American Muscle Car. I'd be very curious to hear what they sound like on a 512TR. Go back to the dealer with a Palm and tell them you want to hear it, then record the sound as a voice memo for us! ;)
     
  4. Mojo

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    I too would love to hear what that sounds like, Might be awsome.
     
  5. jeffdavison

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    I know of a TR here in Atlanta that runs 4 Cherry Bombs. His car is FAST and it sounds G O O D !!!!!!


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  6. RacerX_GTO

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    Sound clips are definitely needed here! :)

    I've never heard of such of thing, alternative to Tubi ??
     
  7. sparky p-51

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    Yea...and a whole lot cheaper. Would like a few good pix of that set up.
     
  8. Spasso

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    The sound wave canceling technology is proven on Flowmasters, known for minimal back pressure and good sound. They can actually increase horsepower over open pipes on race cars, proven on the drag strip and sprint cars.

    There is no packing in these to blow out either so they sound just as good years later.

    I have one on my 240Z .

    They just aren't very pretty.
     
  9. Spasso

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    Must have been hanging around the Cherry Bomb equipped Boxer in that area that Frank P has mentioned .
     
  10. 285ferrari

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    This is the route I am going. Have a custom muffler guy getting ready to do my 328. He wants to use a Flowmaster. Will be taking it over to him on Tues. so he can draw up a plan and order the parts. He told me it will sound really nice and look great when he is done. This guy knows his stuff. Has been doing exhaust for 25 years.
     
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  12. stevehuck

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    What's wrong with a Flowmaster muffler?
    I think they sound great!
    There not good enough or cost enough to put on a ferrari?
    Darn fine product! I have them on two of my cars and think they sound great.
     
  13. alberto

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    Somehow I remember that someone here installed Flowmaster mufflers on a 328, but it has been years. Don't know who that was. A search in the old section might find it.

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  14. MufflerMan

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    I own muffler shops in the Sacramento area and I don't recomend using these on a high revving car. Flowmasters are great performance muffler for low rpm engines and or very torquey engines which Ferraris are not. If you do anything as far as custom have the shop use Magnaflow or Borla, both high quality and both use a straight through design, similar to Tubi. I have Flowmasters on my hot rods, just not on my Ferrari.
     
  15. MufflerMan

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    Yes. Car is at Exotic Car in Ceasers Palace Las Vegas.
     
  16. TexasF355F1

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    I wouldn't even put Flows on my Chevy. Give 'em a year and they're rusted.
     
  17. sparky p-51

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    Have them on my 92 surburban...8 years...still sound and look good.
     
  18. M512

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    I agree with Steve. I never had a problem with them rusting out. I lived in the Northeast with snowy winters and salt and sand which I drove the car in. I didn't have any problems with the flowmasters.

    On what basis do you make this remark?
     
  19. 285ferrari

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    When Flowmaster first hit the market --years ago they did have poor quality and rust problems. Had them on Mustangs, Camaros, etc. years ago. Now they have really stepped up. Have seen them on all kinds of vehicles recently and they have definetly improved the quality.
     
  20. 285ferrari

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    Not sure I understand your post--- the last sentence says not just my Ferrari. So as a muffler man--Do you suggest them on a 328--which is not a high reving motor--or not??? I value your opinion-being a muffler shop owner..
     
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    Ditto. I would like to hear some exhaust "experts" discuss the design of flowmasters vs. Borla and why Flowmasters would be a bad choice for that 512TR or a TR?
     
  22. MufflerMan

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    You reversed my last sentance, I wrote "just not my Ferrari" not "not just my Ferrari". Anyhow, no I wouldn't recomend Flowmaster for your 328. Your engine makes most of its power above 4 thousand rpm, this is what I consider high rpm. It is about the power band, yes a big block Chevy can rev to seven grand, but it makes the majority of its power way before that. A Ferrari engine, any Ferrari engine, makes its power at high rpm. High rpm engines need less backpressure, hence the straight through design of Borla or Magnaflow. Flowmaster uses an open chamber design, that yes flows well, but not as well as a straight through muffler.
     
  23. Spasso

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    Thanks for the enlightenment Colby.

    I have one on my 240Z which obviously makes it's power above 4k but I think it still works out because I am running 2.5" in and out from a 6 into 1 header. It revs very freely this way.

    A TR seems to make most of it's power in the lower ranges as well. After all it is a 5 liter and is really quite torquey.
     
  24. cf355

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    When I owned an NSX I installed a crossflow Flowmaster muffler and the sound was incredible. There were no rust issues with this exhaust and the modification saved about 20 lbs in weight.
    This is actually very common modification in the NSX community.

    The NSX readline is 8000 rpm and and there were no issues with regard to performance. Dyno testing revealed an increase of about 5 HP.
     
  25. RacerX_GTO

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    So.... regardless of exhaust CFM matched to a particular Flowmaster, the unspoken rule of thumb is that there is potential to damage the Ferrari engine, would that be a correct assumption? Just go for the 'straight-through' design and be safe?
     

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