Ferrar Host marque at Classic Adelaide 2005

LMAO!
Though I really shouldn't - I can get a seniors card if I stopped working!
Trouble is I don't want to trade off the joys of Ferarri ownership for a free ride on a bus!

 

well maybe you should...at least you SPELL bus!

 

I ran your numbers through my trusty performance calculator..... just for the hell of it

288 GTO
0-100 = 3.87
400m = 11.69 @ 116 mph

F40
0-100 = 3.54
400m = 11.17 @ 121 mph

F50
0-100 = 3.55
400m = 11.18 @ 121 mph


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Gill, I see what you mean about being in a league of their own.
That is seriously quick for a street driven car

 

I just had a look at a few magazine reviews on these cars and they generally state the weight to be ~100kg lighter than what you wrote for both cars.....your error or theirs?

 

There is no way in hell any F40 road car weighed 1100kg, no matter what Ferrari said. AIRCON's car was the very lightest spec, being a sliding window, non-cat, non adjustable suspension model. We weighed it and it came in at over 1200kg. The F40LM is rated at 1050kg and it is fully stripped, has leight weight panels, wheels etc, etc.

The F50 Euro model (lightest spec) is stated as being 1320kg in my handbook. FWIW it also says 0-100kmh in 3.87 secs top speed 325kmh

 

F40 with full fuel, of course. came out at exactly what the handbook said..1230kg

Q....your calculator is broken!

 

Thankds for the info.

 

not possible. it must be a traction issue

 

The F40, definately is NOT, on or off. Ferrari must have had an issue with those sorts of problems and sorted them out for the F40. In normal driving amongst traffic, it could be a 348/355, from a point of acceleration. put your foot down (over 3000 revs), and all hell breaks loose. Well that's how I see it.
(and I would also say that an F50 is in the same league, except that the turbo feel isn't there). I guess maybe I'm just a petrol head from way back. One of you guys on F-chat, said that the F40 looked like it jumped to light speed when the turbo's came on. That's a great explanation as to what happens. For me, it's the best part of it. Apart from the LM (which is even more out of control), the F40 is my favourite car of all time. I just can't see how Ferrari, will ever come up with a car that is as exciting as an F40. I have a 430 coming, but I know in my heart, that it's NO, F40. There never will be another F40. (I think it's the out of control rawness that makes it what it is, and I've always had the idea that Ferrari wanted a race car for the street, when they built the F40's, and all the Ferrari's after that, were a bit more refined and a bit more domestic. And as for driving a 288, I never had the urge. This is a bit like the guys who keep on buying stereo equipment, looking for the great sound, when they don't really know what the GREAT sound is. When you find the great sound, you don't need to look any further and you don't need to buy anymore equipment. The same with the F40 for me, I've found my ultimate car, I don't need to look any further.

 

I'm not sure about the 0-100 in 3.54. The figures I have, state that a euro spec F40 does 0-100 in 4.2 and US spec car 4.5 (the LM is 3.2)

 

The calc can sometimes be optimistic on the 0-100 times [it assumes perfect world conditions]
That said, the 1/4 mile times are usually spot on.

WOW, why such a big difference between the two...?

 

Well, pretty simple really. The road F40 is a 478 horsepower, 1250 Kilo car. The LM is a 850 (qualifying mode), horsepower, 1040 Kilo car.
Oh, maybe your asking the difference in the EURO/USA spec road cars.........................
The difference would probably have to do with the emission controls etc. etc. in the US, Scott might be able to tell you more about that.

 

that's not as impressive about the F40 as the fact that 100-160 takes even less time than that.

 

People don't understand that. The normal perseption is to "light up the bags",
Ferrari's were never about "Lighting up the bags", they were about get them going, then "LOOK OUT". You and I both know, how incredible the acceleration is of an F40 after, 100 K's. The best part is after 120 kph.
The figures I have is.............................3000 revs in 4th gear = 100k.
6000 revs in 4th gear = 200K. 3000 to 6000 takes 3 secs. You can go from 100k to 200k in 3 seconds (this is with turbos on).

 

i found the car better to drive with the turbos on....plus, i got sick of taking them off.

i think 100-200 in 3 seconds might be a BIT of an exaggeration.

 

At the end of day, it's only the people that have owned an F40, understand what we're talking about. 3/4/6/10.............who cares, it's bloody quick.

 

yes Gil...aren't we special?

 

After all, you know how much 'a yard' is!

 

It's descriptions like that that led me to believe it wasn't linear with its power/torque delivery. Doesn't the torque curve go vertical between 3000 to 4000 revs?

When I said on/off, I didn't mean like a WRX STi, but that it was very much 'two stage' in its delivery. That's what you seem to be suggesting in the above quote. If you says it's not (and you should know!), that's going to have to be good enough for me, I suppose.

I wish I was in love with only one car... it would make life MUCH easier!

 

10 points ( and a free bus ride) for spotting the deliberate error

 

The thing about 288 is that they were the FIRST real "modern era" supercar, for a start....

I actually find their relatively understated "308 on steriods" look MORE appealing than the "In your face" F40 styling... but that's just a personal thing.

Around the car... you can actually open a 288 bonnet either end on your own... really very easily!! The sill panels are narrow enough to get out easily without kicking/scratching and they don't hold the dirt to smudge your clothes..... and the door key for a 288 looks like a car key, not a $5 padlock key... so when you lay them on the bar the chicks really are impressed....

On the road... the high profile tyres, high ground clearance, featherlight go kart steering, and the sweet whistle of the spooling turbos make the 288 SOOOOOO much nicer to drive than F40... you don't need to worry about hitting the ground. The tyres tell you what's going to happen..... before it does, it's so light and chuckable, AND the all round visibility is great... MUCH better than F40.

288 is also wide at both ends, not just the rear... which makes wriggling through gaps actually fun, and not something you need to worry or think twice about like in an F40.

And for really not very much at all... a very cheap small mod can bring power to nearer 450BHP (or more).... just so you can actually beat the hot hatchback... should you feel the need.

Given the choice... 288 every time. Given the money..BOTH (Non cat Non adjust F40)

 

it died (the 288) on Friday arvo with a no go status of motor dead.

the local dealer could not give a stuff cos it was friday arvo and it is "only" a 288.
I organized with adelaide european to get the car by 5.30pm on a flat bed and said try something, in the mean time i told the NZ boys the TR is available to complete the event, after a slab of beer and argentinian charcoal beef at 11.30 the call came thru the 288 is ok and to come abd get it, it had a distributor malfunction and once set right it was and ran the rest of the event like a dream.
whats more the boys only got charged $700 and they were more than happy to have a big photo of the thing in the shop saying we got it going.

Sunday on the 3rd to last stage the boys in the F40 wanted to swap with the GTO and it was interesting at the after event piss up that the F40 boys were stocked on the raw power of the GTO.

a great event- the GT4 ran out of brakes with cooked fluid by lunchtime sunday and we completed the last two downhill closed sections with luck, prayer and doors open as wind brakes but the pleasure was catching a 328 and overtaking it with 350 meters to the finish,
a dream run and already booked for next year.

 

That says it all. Well done, Goober.