There has been some posts on this thread that have been enlightening to me. I have been wondering why I am reluctant to even go look at a for sale Ferrari, and now I know. I'm a 'tire kicker' if I've not got my checkbook in hand. Sounds like a good way to weed out the cautious buyer and only allow the impulse buyer any time. Sheesh!
ferrari's, like most things of passion, are ment to be bought with the heart and not the mind. you wouldn't stop pursuing one you lust after just because they said "no" at the first attempt. when you are ready and willing and able, no one will deny you what you long after.
To change the topic a bit, I have some thoughts on this quote. I think there's a reasonably good chance that Dinos will hold their value as long as gasoline is available to make them run (or even longer), the reason being that nothing else looks like them. If a guy is turned on by Shelby Mustangs but can't afford one, well, a Camaro Z28 isn't that different. If a guy loves Healey 3000's, well, a 100/6 isn't that different. If a guy loves 3.8 E-type roadsters, well, a 4.2 or even a Series 1 1/2 isn't that different. But name me a car that "isn't that different" than a Dino. To my eye the only cars on Earth that have similar curves are the Dino 206SP and the 330 P4, and they are in a totally different price bracket.
After riding in a Dino for a nice blast (thanks Dave!!) I love the car. If I had room I would want it as my vintage f-car as everything else I like from that period+- Lusso, 275, ect are in the stratusphere(sp) price wise. I would love a 360 spider and a dino for the cost of a new 430 spider IMO. The car is awesome it isn't even fast, but it is QUICK and that means a lot when you are tossing the car around. I have been in cars a lot faster that aren't as much fun to be in! It is one of the few cars you can drive and enjoy without getting into serious ticket territory, and the lines are priceless. Erik
I have to respectfully disagree with you here. The only way I could know what my car is worth would be to drive around pretending to be a potential buyer, wasting lots of sellers' time, and then compare those cars mentally to mine. In my mind, this is a pretty dishonest thing to do. In these days of digital darkrooms, on line photos have to be taken with a grain of salt, so those ads mean little. If I took my time to drive my car to your place of business, asked you what it was worth, and you took 2 minutes of your time to look at it and say "$80-90K, depending on what further inspection reveals," I would leave thinking you were someone I would return to should I decide to sell. However, I agree that I should not expect you to have your mechanic go over it for an hour and give me an exact number for nothing.
A friend and I own other Ferraris and are both activity looking for a 246 GTS "chairs & flairs" model. What was a $60-75,000 market for a perfect car (with a number to choose from) a couple of years ago has turned into a $100,000++ with slim pickings even at those prices. Congratulation and enjoy it...
I'm not in the car business but I buy and sell tens of thousands of dollars worth of lumber on the phone, mostly to people I've never met, every day. Obviously my reputation is the key to my success as all my deals are verbal agreements. If anyone backs out ever, I don't deal with them. That being said, we give firm offers all the time to buy and sell. We MUST honor a firm offer or we'll never buy or sell that person again. The next lower trading technique is a "quasi firm". "Hey, if I can get this priice, would you be interested?" "I might, let me know what you can do". This is how most deals go. Both parties can back out, or can counter. I think Ferrari traders should be very aware of the language they use with each other because misunderstandings cost you customers and ill will with suppliers. I imagine customers in particular frequently don't use language as well as they need to. If I walk in a dealership out of the blue with a 246 to trade for a 355, I expect to be treated with respect and enthusiasim. If I ask the professional what he will give me for my car, I expect an offer. If I ask about the trade, I expect him to outline what he would do. That's his job and he's the pro. I don't HAVE to trade my 246 but he has to make deals to live. My obligation is to not agree on a trade unless I'm willing to follow through. If he says 'would you take it as an even swap' and I agree, then I should make the deal. Naturally I can counter, or say I'll think about it. Ken
I'm thinking about the visual cues of the Dino and how similar they are to; the front end of a 330, the rear intakes of a 250LM, the interior of a Daytona, etc. In summary, the Dino hints at its lineage with predecessors of much higher value while retaining its own style. I agree here, but you haven't even mentioned how drivable these cars are - excellent balance and handling with fairly simple mechanicals and a fantastic supplier base to provide parts. Now you're getting it!
My Silver subscription finally took hold, and I took some good advice here and posted my car on FerrariAds.com. Thanx again for the words. Also put my 365GTC4 on there. We'll see where things go. MB
Matt: Congratulations on your e-bay auction which I watched with interest. I would say a nice price at $85K for what appears to be a very clean driver.
what type of DIno was it that sold for $85k on ebay? I could not find the expired auction... I have a Dino 246GT '72 that I have been toying with the idea of selling. Interestingly enough it is the Dino that comes up number one in google search for 'ferrari dino for sale' ... the red one.
Good go! a well tuned Dino is truely something to behold. You can actually be driving much faster than it feels. this is one of the beauties of the Dino. So poised and nimble and balanced and very quick. The Dino will make the V-12 cousin wonder what the hell happened on a tight road course.
Here's the listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4594994536&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT Frankly, I'm amazed. $85K for a nice driver car with no tools or books, that needs paint to be show quality. No chairs or flairs either. GREAT PRICE!! About $15K more than I thought it would get. Matt. Let us know if the sale closes at that price. DM
Well, I got $85000 winning bid for my '72 GT on eBay, then the guy turned out to be a nightmare who tried to push a partial trade on me. Since I told him no, he's vanished. But still, happy with the number. Going to take less now as I move down the list of bidders.
Rather than using only Ebay, perhaps focus in on your target buyer by advertizing in the FCA ads, FML, or Hemmings - this is where you'll find the serious buyers rather than players
