Chocolate City?????????

Not bad, only misspelled one word!

Take care gang, over and out............

 

Woah hold your horses now Bubba! I'm just having a good time.....no one is giving lip to another member's photoshop of LA's mayor......I know you can see humor in my posts.

 

Well, either that or you are the only one who thinks your posts are funny. Think about it...

 

You don't have a 12 foot tall sewage waterline in your living room.

And I would imagine they still haven't found everyone dead in an attic.

And the ones that washed to sea, don't get counted at all...........there were more of those towards Biloxi, I'd think.

I don't see anything in your comments at all. Sorry. I'll check them again.

Just about everyone else posting to this thread, I've met face to face. They'd be welcome in Texas at my house anytime. It's a dome tent, though......so I hope they don't all come at one time.

 

Tough crowd.........oh well.....the Nagin pic thread seems to be humorous.

 

I enjoy a good argument but I really don't see how someone that is so geographically removed can have such a hard opinon that he knows not much about. If he has formed his opinon by what the media puts out, well..."here's your sign!"
Is Nagin racist? I beleive he is. to the extent of a KKK member, no not even close. He's know for straying off his speeches that are written for him and this is a case where he has done that. His words will comeback to get him during the next election. He got carried away with the crowd, but that was no excuse to say what he did.
A few things that I am hearing from local blacks is that they are upset for being referred to as chocolate. No one in the media is bringing that out.
For those who don't live here, don't be so utterly stupid to judge the entire state of Louisiana by the words of one man. Not everyone here is racist. New Orleans will NEVER be the same but is that bad thing?

 

Who are you referring to 42?

 

Blackbird4life, you don't seem to have this problem of your own making (trolling) elsewhere on F-Chat.

However, since your disdain for the region has been stated in more ways than one, if you post once more in the Lousiana section - ever - I'm afraid you'll be banned for... a day for each post on this thread. I believe that would be 16 days.

See, I believe in symbolism.

Understand this - I don't having against you.

Just as the Guido thread is about schmucks from NJ, the other Nagin thread is for trashing a schmuck. These guys don't trash the Big Apple, you don't trash the Big Easy.

 

90% whites voted for him, while 43% blacks did. I think he's lost his political foothold with the white community and now he's going to extreme measures to try to prove his "blackness".

Won't happen...

 

Rick you have hit the nail on the head about Nagins motivation, as any other politician. His voting block has left the city and he wants it back. Politics in Louisiana have been labeled a spectator sport. I think the upcoming elections in New Orleans will be very entertaining, and who knows how many dead folks will be voting this go round?

 

GLad you brought this up, I was going to post this fact but see you have done so already.


Hey Wax
Thanks

 

I think he is a Racist. He said it now he has to live with the label.

 

In the past several days I am well aware that many people are taking time to re-evaluate their thoughts on hizzoner's speech and there are a few that have chosen to forgive and forget. No problem, thats their right and if they feel like forgiving this idiot then, no problem. To that end I respectfully disagree and I have my reasons for doing so. Those reasons are formulated not only on the basis of the Mayor's MLK day comments, but also on how he has handled himself through out the entire aftermath of Katrina. Like I said before this is not the first time that Nagin has said one thing when he believes he is speaking to a general audience, then turns around and says another when he is speaking to the African American community. His actions and comments regarding, the residents of Lakeview, Mardi Gras, and The Bring Back New Orleans Commission are all examples of this. In addition his sometimes arrogant position and disregard of the City Council (which includes people elected to represent the residents of New Orleans) has me in total dismay. The guy is CONSTANTLY talking out of both sides of his mouth, rather than being upfront and honest with ALL of the city's residents and I would be lying if I said that does not bother me, A LOT. Instead of trying to constantly pander to whatever audience he "thinks" he is addressing and telling them what they want to hear, he needs to be frank with us and we can all move forward from there.

I say all of this because I truly feel that what New Orleans becomes in the aftermath of Katrina is totally up to US, the RESIDENTS OF NEW ORLEANS. As such I'm all for ANYBODY, black, white, Hispanic, whatever that wants to move back to this city and rebuild. Those who do not, will not, that's their decision and it needs to be respected, rather than questioned by politicians who are worried that the demographics of this city may not be favorable to their political careers or constituency. The same goes for those who are here working in the recovery efforts. If they decide this is a place they desire to live, and they want to help make this city stronger, then I welcome them with open arms. If all of this means that the city will be less black, more black, more white, less white, or majority Hispanic SO BE IT, because that is the way that the people who will reside here rebuilt it. Like I said I don't care what whites, blacks, The Mayor, Al Sharpton, David Duke or anybody else want the makeup of this city to be because it's not their decision to make.

As far as Nagin, screw him. I have a hard time believing he is sorry for any of his remarks and given his behavior in the past several months I feel I am justified in thinking this.

 

Nagin has yet to realize that EVERY word he utters in the public light is indeed public. I don't blame him for wanting to speak about issues that concern the specific audience he is speaking towards at that moment, but I DO think he should be called out in times that he is blatantly demeaning members of his constituency. Which, obviously, in this case, he deserves to be called out.

Precisely! This city is NOT about color or ethnicity, rather, we take pride in accepting persons of ANY lineage! The 'color' of our city is not a representation of a specific demographic; the 'color' is representative of the collective outlook on life determined by the people. The 'people' being the mix of soul, vibrance, and universal will to live life in such a way as to value the individual.

AMEN!

 

90% is only 25 whites in LA

 

New Orleans, pre-Katrina, was 64% black. So the white population was much larger than 25 people.

 

I'll give you a better one Sparta. What do you think Nagin's reaction would be if an NOPD officer, black or white, made similar statements regarding the opposite race and it was recorded and broadcast in the national media? My bet is he would be calling for their head and ordering the chief to fire said officer. Why does he think he should be treated any different when he acts in such an unprofessional manner?

 

I agree 100%. And Nagin wouldn't be the only one calling for his head. Although looking at his behavior and comments as a whole since the storm maybe he isn't a racist maybe he juse went slapa$$ fuuckin' crazy and needs to be locked up and medicated somewhere. Either way though he needs to resign and save New Orleans from any further humiliation ( at least caused by his mouth I'm sure other politicans will fill the void).

 

Why would you rebuild an area that is such a high risk? Wouldn't it make more sense to spend the $300,000,000,000 on creating a new city above sea level? A new city, all new infrastructure in an above sea level area seems like a better long term investment than a bandage on run down ghetto in a flood plain.

 

I guess you just don't know the facts about what is being asked for and what is needed. That's ok, do some HW and report back. To call New Orleans a 'run down ghetto' is to slight the amazing culture and history of the city.

 

Aside from the 'ghetto' aspects of the post, I think Jimwalking has posed a valid question.
As a taxpayer, I, too, am wondering if reconstructing NO on its current site is the best long-term move.
As a two-term ('small-potatoes') politician, I'm not convinced...
As a retired businessman, I know that emotion (i.e. "...culture and history...") should NOT play a decisive role in issues that involve bazillions of dollars of public money, and it worries me that there are those that think it should.
What I've said above is not sarcastic; what I'm about to say is--but it drives my point home:
Would a buoy with a brass plaque not be more economically feasible in the long term?
End sarcasm.
Just because a mistake was made a couple of hundred years ago (in siting NO) does not mean that it should be repeated.
If, as a taxpayer, businessman, and politician, I am mistaken, then I am hoping you (or somebody) will correct me and guide me to the proper path of thought in this matter.
Thank you,
Keith

 

Well, New Orleans (like Galveston) is what we like to call a seaport, traditionally located at the edge of the water!

Now Houston is a port also, cortesy of a ship channel 50 miles long, a lot of dirt to move but somebody did it.

Actually not much of New Orleans PROPER is below sea level, but close. The complication comes from Lake P, to the north, which is the Mississippi River flowing downstream. So that is the water that flooded the city thru a failed levee (bult by the Federal Government in a attempt to control/maintain commerce on the river.

It's a real hard question, as not to offend the residents, but like Houston/Galveston the most troublesome part to relocate is actually the industrial complexes, making the things ALL YA'LL love and enjoy...natural gas for heating fuel for you car plastic for the dashboard....stuff like that.

It simply cannot be abandoned, so Like Texas City, much money has been expended to levee around it and build some of the largest dewatering equipment in the world.......

PVC has skyrocketed, and the BP blast continues to impact YOUR pump prices.

I'll let you know when we can get it going again and make it better, oh look, NYSE sank 215 today...it's not unrelated!

ttyl,

BT

 

Those that are not from here think that the entire ciyt is a wasteland, and thats just not true. Not all of New Orleans was flooded, just certain parts. To those that live in the greater New Orleans area, what percentage of New Orleans proper are we talking about that has major damage??

 

Gentlemen,
I woke up at 3 a.m. this morning and began fretting over my 'plaque on a bouy' comment.
I believe it was a terribly insensitive observation for me to make.
What instrument 42 says is correct: I have been under the impression that the bulk of NO both commercial and residential has been severely damaged/flooded--and I think that most everybody else who is not 'there' does, too. I suppose we have the press to blame.
I recall only hearing of slight industrial/port damage. It is extensive?

 

What is a ghetto? According to the dictionary-

ghet·to: A section of a city occupied by a minority group who live there especially because of social, economic, or legal pressure.

If we read a few stories about New Orleans, we find a common theme: minority, poor, terrible schools and high crime.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163091

http://www.slate.com/?id=2125810&nav=tap1/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-18-new-orleans-rebuilding_x.htm

Nothing I have read to date disputes that majority of New Orleans has ghetto like conditions.