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  1. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    Thanks Philip. Will call my local Ford guys tomorrow and see what they say. Perhaps i am being a bit optomistic as there are hills here.
     
  2. jknight

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    Perhaps it was just a "horse thing" as we wanted the closest cross beams as possible. I understand about the aluminum trailers. We have several stock trailers and flat bed that are steel - aluminum is definitely worth the extra cost. I get my aluminum trailer acid washed once a year and it looks brand new. The "Jiffy Jack" is definitely a must. It sounds from all the posts that you've got excellent advice and have just what you need. Good Luck!

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  3. staatsof

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    Ah, there's no free lunch. Trust me, you're paying for all those things on top of the price of the Superwinch. But ... they also aren't going to install a winch from Harbor freight in yopur trailer. For the do it yourself type it's a harder decision.
     
  4. staatsof

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    Actually the opposite is true. Never unload up hill and a lot of times flat can be a pain in the ass. On a flat location you can always crank the the tongue up to get a tilt otherwise unloading is difficult. A slight grade down is preferable. It's really a very simple concept. Let gravity and your winch do the work for you. Once you're clear and able to enter the vehicle set the parking brake or chocks and disconnect the winch. Too steep a grade and none are both problems. You also need to have the ground and trailer level left to right. Carry some 2x12 10 or 12ft planks and bricks for odd situations. They can be life savers. Enjoy towing, argh ;>)
     
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    I agree. You may have your hands full. Truck and auto manufactures tend ot over rate their vehicles for towing. But after one trip you should figure out if there's a problem just take easy at first.
     
  6. enjoythemusic

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    Ok, after talking with Ford Co in Detroit, and then my local Ford parts/service guy who is a no BS person... They said towing will be fine with the truck package i have and there is headroom. Of course towing a vehicle takes skill and FULLY agree to take it easy and get to know the rig. Keeping speeds low, etc. My first use of the trailer will be an easy trip and to the local NHIS track. Two days in a row of that and other small trips, so it gives me time to learn before any really long distance trips.
     
  7. BigHead

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    Steve - just another word of caution, like what F40 said. The Ranger is simply not big/powerful/heavy enough to tow your 308 on an open trailer for any real distance. It's not just a matter of the tow rating, it's also a question of wheelbase, length, tongue weight, drag, and more. You WILL find the trailer "walking" if you exceed, say, 50 mph. At 50 mph, it's a verrrrrrrrry long tow to Watkins Glen. Especially as how you'll be lucky to be doing 25 mph at the top of the giant hill on the Pike (the highest point on Rt. 90 until you hit Washington or Oregon). And you'll have to tow the Northern route to WGI, as you'll have great difficulty with the hills on the Southern route. Sure, you can tow to NHIS, but the whole point of towing your street car to the track is to tow it a long distance (WGI, LRP, LCMT, SP, Pocono, VIR, Mid-Ohio, Mosport), and not to your backyard. Trade the ranger in on a used F250 or Chevy HD, or consider a Tahoe/Expedition/Suburban.

    Bottom line - "can" you tow this? Sure. Will you "want" to do it? I doubt it....

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    Oh, and just to be careful, do make sure to get insurance on the trailer that covers damage to whatever is on/in it (seriously). Knock wood!

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  9. enjoythemusic

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    Was this a Featherlite trailer or ??? Just curious and really appreciate your experience here.
     
  10. enjoythemusic

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    Many thanks Dennis and i truly appreciate your help and experience. Fully agree the point is to haul the car longer distances and guess i am kinda stuck for now until i upgrade support vehicles as that does seem to be the right thing to do. Again, many thanks for your advice, it is very much appreciated.
     
  11. pma1010

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    No, Steve, steel bed, but unlikely to make any difference. Combination of vehicle weight, trailer springs and (soft-ish) springs on the MDX caused the gyrations.

    On the WGI trip. There's one thing worse than feeling like you are straining the tow vehicle, crawling up the hills.

    Coming down.

    Without enough brakes.
     
  12. enjoythemusic

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    Ahhh ok. Thanks for the info, MUCH apprech!


    Agreed, and it happened to me a bit with the huge enclosed U-Haul while i was also flatbedding my Honda. The U-Haul was a bit of a handful coming down the mountain here between Brattleboro VT and Keene NH. Very much appreciate everyone's concern and i guess we will see how the dual brakes of the Featherlite and those of the Ranger does during a 'dry run' on those mountains. Though yes, it seems a new support vehicle may be in my future.
     
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    Way off topic, but it must be said. You have a stunning car. Great choice on the wheels, finish and size.

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  14. enjoythemusic

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    Thx Ken. That pic is kinda rare nowadays as i pretty much never polish the car any longer, maybe 2 or 3 times a year. The guys hassle me at shine/show events as the rims usually get LOADS of brake dust even from driving just to those shine/show things. Frankly, i'd rather be tweaking her for the track.

    As for the rims... Love the Kinesis 17-inch rims and also gained 4 more inches of rubber under the car for the track as we uprated from stock 7/8 to 8/9 (inches wide front/rear). The great thing about Kinesis besides their excellent reputation is that they are VERY durable, very light weight, made to fit and perfectly fill the well, are cut to Ferrari's wacky offset so NO spacers needed... and i guess they look cool too. many Porsche guys at various track events use Kinesis BTW. At some track events it seems a Porsche guy or two usually come up to me and comment about the rims ("Hey, i use those same rims, i love them").

    We now return to my carting this beast to track events.

    BTW EVERYONE: got a PM from a friend. His friend has a 2004 Ranger and flats a 350Z (3,400 lbs versus the 308 GTS' 2900) to various track events and has no problem with hills, sway, etc. So that is good news.
     
  15. WaltP

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    Steven, What size tires will you be running on the trailer? I guess a better question is what load range will you be running, C or D?
     
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    >BTW EVERYONE: got a PM from a friend. His friend has a 2004 Ranger and flats a 350Z (3,400 lbs versus the 308 GTS' 2900) to various track events and has no problem with hills, sway, etc. So that is good news.

    Don't forget, Steve - the 350 is more nose heavy than the 308. So if you put the 308 on the trailer facing forward, you'll have less tongue weight. You may need to get the car as far forward as possible to get the right set-up. Play with it until you have the correct tongue weight. Hope you can clear the winch and tire box etc. Backing up the 308 onto the trailer is not fun, so you may definitely need a winch.

    vty,

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  17. enjoythemusic

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    It comes with four 15-inch tires rated at C. Each of the two alxes themselves are rated at 3,500 lbs (for 7k lbs total).

    The trailer weights 1,400 lbs
    The car is 2,900 lbs 'wet'
    Wench is 40 lbs
    Extra spare tire that may be mounted on the trailer is ???
     
  18. WaltP

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    Every trailer is different but I am able to pull my 308 on facing forward. This leaves me plenty of room to move the car to adjust the tonuge weight. Unfortunately this was a trial and error process for me but now that I know where it rides best I have my rear tie down straps adjusted and just pull the car up until they tighten then tie the front end down. As I said, it was a trial and error process, what is the best way to determine the best tounge weight for the set up you have?
     
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    #44 enjoythemusic, Feb 9, 2006
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    Thanks Dennis, appreciate the advice. The car will about 50/50, but will have exact figures once KTR has the car back together and they finish the setup and corner weighing.

    WaltP, see attached PDF, it is part of the Featherlite owners manual i downloaded off their Web site.
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  20. WaltP

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    Thanks Steven.
     
  21. FL 355

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    Steve -
    I have a custom all aluminum I'm no longer using. Pulled my 355 and Diablo with it using a V8 Explorer. All diamond plate and special 12' ramps allows to load anything without bottoming out. 24 D-Rings, winch, break-away fenders, elec brakes, soft torsion, etc etc. Want 3K for it. If any interest PM me and I'll send more pix and detials.
    Best
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  23. enjoythemusic

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    Nice trailer, wish you were closer than Ft Laud tho. i'll have to pass as i already have paid for the Featherlite. Hopefully someone else sees your post and checks it out as it looks nice.
     
  24. BigHead

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    Dang, Frank, that is a beautiful trailer! Too bad you're so far from New England!

    vty,

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  25. xs10shl

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    I have a relatively new Featherlite 3110. It's an excellent trailer, except for the ramps, which will not accomodate low profile vehicles. I've also installed L-track, which makes securing cargo a breeze.

    It tracks fine behind my Landcruiser at 60 mph, but I'm considering getting a Nissan, which has a 9000 lb tow rating.
     

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