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  1. Mario Gonzalez

    Mario Gonzalez Formula 3

    Apr 13, 2004
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    spanish hip hop. concept is ok and at the right time for the market in south florida. 1. the lyrics aren't that good. 2. the production sucks. the music arangement is a little lame. 3. good luck and try again.

    by the way listen to REMIX he knows what he's talking about...
     
  2. BigDog

    BigDog Formula 3

    Nov 1, 2003
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    under the sea!


    babies
     
  3. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

    Aug 28, 2005
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    thx i like ure honesty and ure constructive opinion.
    thank u
     
  4. Poweredbyme91

    Poweredbyme91 Formula Junior

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    I hate to change the subject but I have to agree with you. Im hispanic myself and trust me I have a very open mind to lots of spanish music from merengue to tejano to spanish rock music but the whole reggaton genre never seemed to appeal to me at all. I was very suprised how reggateon just became so popular and took over radiostations in a matter of a few months. Like i said, I really love all kinds music and listen to alot of genres but this is one genre that I truly don't see it going anywhere; it all sounds the same to me, same beat, same shuffle, nearly almost the same tempo (I think I can make on FruityLoops in 2 minutes). Everyone seems to be investing in this industry but I'll give it a couple more years until it all dies out.

    Why not switch to spanish R&B/Alternative? A-la Shakira? That'd be a perfect project to try out and I think your voice would suit it just right.
     
  5. acehole

    acehole Formula Junior

    Dec 14, 2004
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    Hmm, one thing ive learnt in the music industry over and over is this:

    Be very very careful not to show anyone who doesnt understand music your unfinished work.. As an artist it can be quite dangerous to your creative process to introduce non expert advice into your song.

    I think a good artist manages to create art or music that people will love regardless of weather they understand why its good or not. So dont worry too much about the opinions here (CMY's response was good in my opinion) and focus on your working with your producers, mixers and most of all yourself.

    I happen to think your vocals are OKAY. You sound like you need a bit more range in your vocal tones.. but then again, this is bordering on rap music, so all the rules go out the window.

    The other thing is that the melody does not seem to be catch me in anyway. I hear it for a minute then it seems to repeat. Remember, every art work must tell a story. It must have a begining middle and end. A good story engages the audience in highs and lows, twists and turns and a few surprises mixed in. I dont really see that in this song.

    I did a little excercise with some musicians a while back, trying to introduce some design techniques into music.. I told the song writer to grab a large piece of board, a felt tip marker, and told him to scribble one single line on the board which represented the song he was trying to write. He scribbled this pretty staccatto looking line accross the board, and just towards the end, it exploded into a massive array of scribble all over the board. I then told him to play that scribbled line on his guitar. That then formed the basis for a really good rock song and melody. It hit platinum.

    This is all based on a "POP" opinion ofcourse. If this music is intended for an underground audience, then you shouldnt really be taking anyones opinions into consideration but the people you work with.
     
  6. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

    Aug 28, 2005
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    wow!! this is one of the best advices i had .A big thx to u, it's extremely helpful
     
  7. Gilles27

    Gilles27 F1 World Champ

    Mar 16, 2002
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    Arabian-eyes,

    I like Reggae, and limited amounts of hip-hop style music. Seeing as how I'm close to 40, I'm not real familiar with Reggaeton, per se, but it sounds to me like it's a fusion of Reggae with sort of a hip hop groove. I'm obviously not the prime target for this, but I thought it was pretty decent. It seems like, these days, you need a gimmick or "hook" as much as talent. Case in point are the Black Eyed Peas. They're decent, but have gotten way more mileage out of their music than most bands deserve. And let's be honest--if they didn't have Fergie out front shaking her goods like a seizure for every song, they would have vanished 2 years ago. That being said, you're young and seem to have a solid voice. While your song isn't bad, you need to be thinking "What's next?". Because if you find any success, I guarantee everyone else will be asking you that. Good luck with all of this. Life is full of opportunities, as well as second chances. But remember you're only young once, so take advantage of any breaks that come your way. I don't know what you look like, but I know that the entertainment business is brutal, so don't take it the wrong way when some producer says "Yeah, I like the way you sing, but why don't you try it again in this outfit." as he hands you a bandana.
     
  8. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

    Aug 28, 2005
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    that's sooo nice of u Gilles..(if i'm not wrong) ..Honestly i only got involved into reggaeton style not so long ago because of the major popularity and also because i liked it..it's exotic.Anyhow, i know my vocal potential wasnt shown in this case because in this genre of music u cant show much.. u only need a sexy voice.Whereas in my other ballad songs, u can clearly see it.Having said that, I wont give up on reggaeton because i personally like it in general.. at least u can shake ure bon bon:) but next time it'll be a much better solo.U guys motivate me to work hard on my next song... thx a lot
     
  9. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

    Aug 28, 2005
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    ure provoking me lol:) i might think to do it ... but we;d have to start another thread for that:)lol just kidding
     
  10. MrScarface

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    If I was drunk off my ass at a whore house in Costa Rica, I would probably think this song rocks. Unfortunatly, I'm not.

    Paula?
    No.

    Randy?
    Sorry, no dawg.

    A big NO from me too.
     
  11. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

    Aug 28, 2005
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    okey nice try:)
     
  12. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    A valiant effort, and I'm sure it wasn't easy to do. However, I'm going to pass. The beats have a very flat, casio keyboard sound. I dislike the mixing. - it could have been deeper and more "full" sounding. Your repetitive chorus was too loud compared to the other vocals and got annoying very quickly (the "taah" syllable in particular).

    Perhaps I was confused as well at the 'dark' sound of the rap when you're talking about a jeep - maybe a Rolls, Hummer H1 or something mean would elicit an angry rap... but I think of a lighter, summer sound when I think of Jeeps.

    Be careful sampling sounds from other songs - I hear a few familiar sounds (bass line from "Camisa Negra??"). Right now it is a dangerous practice in the US, the most recent federal court cases having ruled that ANY use of other recordings must be licensed. Of course, people will do it, and no one will sue until there is money to take.
     
  13. brainz

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    Reggaeton was hot in the L.A. area for a short while, but now the fad has passed. The radio stations don't ever play it anymore. Is it really big in Montreal? I'd like to hear from other members from other major metropolitan areas to see if it's still big in their areas.
     
  14. arabian-eyes

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    hmm.. yes it's growing big at a fairly fast rate i would say.Even Jennif er Lopez is bringing the world of reggaeton to the big screen. She is starring in the movie Reggeaton,which tells the sotry of Rob. In fact, her upcoming next album is a reggaeton album For more info
    http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8210
    There's also P.daddy and jay-z coming up with reggeaton songs.
    So i dont know why ure saying that reggaeton has fainted slowly.. u could be right for some states.. Whereas here in montreal,you've got already 1 latin radio station broadcasting reggaeton music from independant artists as well as reknown artists every saturday afternoon.I guess people seem to enjoy reggaeton because it's sexy and sexual in a way.
     
  15. DrStranglove

    DrStranglove FChat Assassin
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    I had never heard of it till now. But that is just me.
     
  16. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

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    not a big deal... ure not missing out something..
     
  17. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    How much are you offering for this market research?
     
  18. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

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    what do u mean??should i offer something?
     
  19. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

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    are you saying that i'm freaking staining my crap on the rest?? just clarify me this... Sorry to say this but u r completely wrong and way out of proportion with unfounded statements shall i say.No offence.. but it's the truth.U generalise way too much but ure forgetting that this genre is directed towards the Y generation substantially.And saying that reggaeton is a crap is a big mistake because it isnt .. there are all kinds of genres of music and it's a personal choice to like it or not.. but to say it's worthless, i completely disagree since reggaeton is a mix of reggae and blends Jamaican music influences of reggae and dancehall with those of Latin America, such as bomba and plena, as well as that of hiphop
    hhttp://www.musicofpuertorico.com/en/genre_reggaeton.html
    please read this to be better informed
     
  20. Testacojones

    Testacojones F1 Veteran

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    Theres so much more you can do than singing second to some guy, this music isn't viewed as a positive thing in any country. But if you like it and are passionate about it, then try to change it to your advantage. I'm going to ask you something, how do you like the world to look at you? Do you care of what they think of you? Some people do. Why don't you consider singing this if you want but in english before someone else does.
     
  21. arabian-eyes

    arabian-eyes Karting

    Aug 28, 2005
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    thx for ure advice but i already have it under consideration.I am half brazilian and half lebanese so i thought of blending the 2 cultures together into something unique.Bck to ure question, I wouldnt wanna be viewed by people like Federline, the husband of Britney, who's the biggest loser and untalented. Sure enough though, controversy attracts people and make the ink flow...i want poeple's opinions mostly mirror what i give them and who i am in general.Sure enough i expect to be gratified in whatever i do for the efforts i invested.. it applies to anything
     
  22. Testacojones

    Testacojones F1 Veteran

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    Are you crazy? Bomba and plena, theres not a single cell of it in reggaeton. I know what bomba and plena are, I lived in Puerto Rico and my father had many workers from Loiza and I saw them dancing and singing many times. The drums sound like voodoo stuff sometimes and the black dancers dress up as when they were slaves. Loiza is the largest black populated town in the island and their roots are from Nigueria. Do you have a clue of what African drum beats and rythms sound like? Maybe you should start watching the National Geographic channel, kidding.

    A good thing you can do is like Shakira. I'm sure that you're beautiful looking..
     
  23. arabian-eyes

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    Aug 28, 2005
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    as much as it sounds to u weird and crazy... i didnt say that it's what makes reggaeton .. i'm just saying that they can be blended together as it can be blended with hip hop for instance.
    more info:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggaeton
    u'll find what i said into the encyclopedia wikipedia.I didnt make this up.
     
  24. CMY

    CMY F1 World Champ

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    It'd be great if AE could give us real-time updates instead of arguments.

    I think the lesson here is that you should do what you feel is great and not try to jam it into a particular genre. We liked your contribution more than the actual song (although I cringe at calling this a 'song') so run with it. Make a few solo demos and find someone who can actually produce.

    Believe me, I'm telling the truth-- I've never agreed on musical taste with Testacojones before! :D
     
  25. Testacojones

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    Don't take all that you read as if it was right. I know that you are saying that it can be mixed together, but from the reggaeton I have heard during my time over there and I admit that I have watched some videos to see the girls acting sort of like "sluts"(that part I like), theres no bomba or plena or any influences.
    In Puerto Rico bomba and plena are not things people look up to or listen to, this music isn't but African beats and theres very little that can be use, it just doens't get out of Loiza.
    In Puerto Rico the majority of the youth listening to reggaeton are the people of lower income, the elite and whites despise it. You will hear a lot of it in some radio stations, but that wasn't always the case becasue the lyrics used to be about murder, drug gangs, car jackings, etc. But this lyrics weren't fiction, many times they were singing or bragging about the murders they commited or other criminal act. In some songs they would even name the housing projects where their gang belongs to and the names of their drug insignia, over there they sell coke, marijuana, heroin, etc with stickers on them to let people indentify from where that particualr bag came from and to let other know of their territories. I lived there 7 years, since 21 and I knew everything there was to know, I was always out living life as only over there which is the only place under the American flag where freedom is a step ahead than in the 50 states. That music came from the low life gangsters wanna be and it still belongs to them. I just don't like that negativity of music to carry over, it started with a lot of blood and it should be buried. It was born from trash and it should be forgotten. I did read the link by the way and the reason the goverment was against it is because it was all about criminality, doing drugs and a lot of crazy sex. The sex part I'm ok with and I think pot should be legal.

    Im not attacking you, I want to be clear on that.


    Good luck with your music
     

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